Author Topic: How would you do this?  (Read 2081 times)

Offline tse1990

  • !!!
  • Verified/Junior
  • **
  • Posts: 51
How would you do this?
« on: June 23, 2017, 10:49:48 AM »
This is going on black shirts.

5 color with an UB or process?

If not CMYK then what print order? I'm thinking ub, blue, green, purple, yellow, red?

Thanks in advance!


Offline tonypep

  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 5623
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 10:53:44 AM »
If you're set up for it DC 55 dpi blends will rock this with seamless blends. Dependant on blank of course

Offline SEPSINK

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 128
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 10:53:57 AM »
I would do this as a 5 color with white base.

base
F
green
purple
blue
F
red
yellow
www.seps.ink Color Separations For Screen Printers

Offline Stinkhorn Press

  • !!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2017, 05:01:19 PM »
If you're set up for it DC 55 dpi blends will rock this with seamless blends. Dependant on blank of course

hadn't occurred to us before you brought it up - will try this. printing on black 3001. we've done a bit of matsui discharge in the past. worth a try.

question 1 - when doing a discharge fade like this - print one color solid and print the other color halftone on top (like you would plastisol)? OR fade them in to one another, both fading?

question 2 - why would doing 5 discharge inks (in this case) make more sense than printing 1 discharge plate (UB) and 5 WB inks on top (this makes sense to my plastisol mind - add a screen but lose the discharge complexity)?

I would do this as a 5 color with white base.

base
F
green
purple
blue
F
red
yellow

that makes sense. if we can't get to good color with our matsui discharge, we'll fall back to this.

Offline Stinkhorn Press

  • !!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2017, 05:02:33 PM »
[i'm not tse1990 - that's chris who asked initially, he's the artist. i'm drew the owner/manager, same shop]

Offline Stinkhorn Press

  • !!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2017, 11:17:23 AM »
we thought about discharge, but didn't in the end go that route - the purple was out of gamut for the basic matsui colors we have on hand, and we know that matsui's red isn't fantastic (and haven't yet learned how to substitute sericol colors)

went with what we knew - plastisol.

white *flash*

purple green blue *flash*
blue again *flash*

yellow red

sucked going around three times, but sometimes that's life. The blue just didn't have enough weight on it's own to make a good fade without being printed 2X which was annoying.

would love to try this with virus' WOW line now, keep the plasisol UB, one flash, once around. assuming we could hit colors. that crap is magic.

Offline tonypep

  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 5623
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2017, 11:26:28 AM »
Came out good though!

Offline 3Deep

  • !!!
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 5256
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2017, 11:32:30 AM »
Looks nice Stinkhorn, that's when a large press comes in handy if not for colors at least cooldown station's and flash's.
Life is like Kool-Aid, gotta add sugar/hardwork to make it sweet!!

Offline Sbrem

  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6041
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2017, 12:26:35 PM »
So, why twice on the blue? Just curious...

Steve
I made a mistake once; I thought I was wrong about something; I wasn't

Offline Prince Art

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 793
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2017, 12:36:02 PM »
Yeah, end result is great. That's what keeps customers happy!
Nice guys laugh last.

Offline Stinkhorn Press

  • !!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2017, 12:44:11 PM »
So, why twice on the blue? Just curious...

Steve

where the green and purple underlie the blue halftone fade, printing wow all three colors, the blue died, didn't optically cover the green and purple.
it needed to be blue printing after flashing the green and purple, the wow blue before the flash just made it look a little bit sharper, so why not.

Offline Sbrem

  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6041
Re: How would you do this?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2017, 10:51:33 AM »
So, why twice on the blue? Just curious...

Steve

where the green and purple underlie the blue halftone fade, printing wow all three colors, the blue died, didn't optically cover the green and purple.
it needed to be blue printing after flashing the green and purple, the wow blue before the flash just made it look a little bit sharper, so why not.

We do what we have to do, that's why I was curious. Been there many times...

Steve
I made a mistake once; I thought I was wrong about something; I wasn't