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Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« on: July 06, 2017, 02:47:26 PM »
Hi guys,

Looking for some help or direction on how to print on Long Sleeves.
I have a M&R Diamondback Press.  I have 4"wide sleeve pallets.  I've done printing on the sleeves before and on the smaller garments the way the arm on the press plus the pallet it stretches the heck out of the sleeve and some smaller sizes don't even fit.
Is the only option buying some special made pallets?  Any one have some sorta jerry rig idea how to do them?
Thanks for any help ;)


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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2017, 03:24:49 PM »
We use 4" pallets also and load thru the neck. yes the smalls are tight but they go on . The smalls run slow
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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 07:48:17 PM »
We use 4" pallets also and load thru the neck. yes the smalls are tight but they go on . The smalls run slow

Thanks Rick for the reply.  I also load through the neck but these days with more fitted style long sleeves it's tuff to get those smalls even mediums on without the garment stretching a ton.  Ugh, gotta figure something out.

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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2017, 07:55:38 PM »
We use 4" pallets also and load thru the neck. yes the smalls are tight but they go on . The smalls run slow

Thanks Rick for the reply.  I also load through the neck but these days with more fitted style long sleeves it's tuff to get those smalls even mediums on without the garment stretching a ton.  Ugh, gotta figure something out.
And you are in the US. We are dealing mainly with garments made for the Asian market. Generally smaller then US sized garments and slimmer too. Certain sizes are almost impossible to load on the standard sleeve pallets. To run those on our automatic press would mean we would have to index at 20  seconds.

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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 08:01:35 PM »
Hi guys,

Looking for some help or direction on how to print on Long Sleeves.
I have a M&R Diamondback Press.  I have 4"wide sleeve pallets.  I've done printing on the sleeves before and on the smaller garments the way the arm on the press plus the pallet it stretches the heck out of the sleeve and some smaller sizes don't even fit.
Is the only option buying some special made pallets?  Any one have some sorta jerry rig idea how to do them?
Thanks for any help ;)

The problem is not the pallet but rather the pallet support bracket. Maybe try the double sleeve pallets by actionengineering http://www.actionengineering.com/cat-258-1-1453/hinged-double-sleeve-pallets.htm

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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 08:02:41 PM »
We use 4" pallets also and load thru the neck. yes the smalls are tight but they go on . The smalls run slow

Thanks Rick for the reply.  I also load through the neck but these days with more fitted style long sleeves it's tuff to get those smalls even mediums on without the garment stretching a ton.  Ugh, gotta figure something out.
And you are in the US. We are dealing mainly with garments made for the Asian market. Generally smaller then US sized garments and slimmer too. Certain sizes are almost impossible to load on the standard sleeve pallets. To run those on our automatic press would mean we would have to index at 20  seconds.

Yeah, M&R needs to figure out a better way to do long sleeves.  The ROQ has a nifty pallet that looks like it can fit any sleeve on.

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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2017, 08:05:19 PM »
Hi guys,

Looking for some help or direction on how to print on Long Sleeves.
I have a M&R Diamondback Press.  I have 4"wide sleeve pallets.  I've done printing on the sleeves before and on the smaller garments the way the arm on the press plus the pallet it stretches the heck out of the sleeve and some smaller sizes don't even fit.
Is the only option buying some special made pallets?  Any one have some sorta jerry rig idea how to do them?
Thanks for any help ;)

The problem is not the pallet but rather the pallet support bracket. Maybe try the double sleeve pallets by actionengineering http://www.actionengineering.com/cat-258-1-1453/hinged-double-sleeve-pallets.htm


That looks pretty sweet but it's also mentioned that the model has been deleted.  bummer

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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2017, 08:40:21 PM »
Hi guys,

Looking for some help or direction on how to print on Long Sleeves.
I have a M&R Diamondback Press.  I have 4"wide sleeve pallets.  I've done printing on the sleeves before and on the smaller garments the way the arm on the press plus the pallet it stretches the heck out of the sleeve and some smaller sizes don't even fit.
Is the only option buying some special made pallets?  Any one have some sorta jerry rig idea how to do them?
Thanks for any help ;)

The problem is not the pallet but rather the pallet support bracket. Maybe try the double sleeve pallets by actionengineering http://www.actionengineering.com/cat-258-1-1453/hinged-double-sleeve-pallets.htm


That looks pretty sweet but it's also mentioned that the model has been deleted.  bummer

Where does it say that?
I just tried and was able to add it to the shopping cart.
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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2017, 09:08:54 PM »
We bit the bullet and bought the tapered pallets a while back. Made a huge difference loading on the auto and has allowed us to print pockets too.


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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 04:02:59 AM »
It's about the only real drawback of M&R presses. My preference is for the simple and solid M&R clamp locking into the ali channel. Nothing is ever going to go wrong with it, and if something ever did it's a simple and cheap fix.

It just doesn't work for sleeves though. Trying to stretch a nice delicate cotton garment over a giant goofy lump of ali with 4 quick release levers sticking out the side of it.

I always thought the simplest solution would be to take a router to the legs on the bottom of a 4" sleeve pallet to create a cavity in order to feed the sleeve of a long-sleeve garment on. I've never been game enough to try it though. I think there's quite a simple solution in that for M&R though, to choose an ali profile or extrusion with a thicker wall so when the cavity is milled out the pallet will still be strong enough to avoid flexing out of shape. It would be a worthwhile solution to run on a chameleon or another M&R manual press, would be an expensive exercise in ruining 12-14 of them for an auto though.

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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2017, 01:36:12 PM »
It's about the only real drawback of M&R presses. My preference is for the simple and solid M&R clamp locking into the ali channel. Nothing is ever going to go wrong with it, and if something ever did it's a simple and cheap fix.

It just doesn't work for sleeves though. Trying to stretch a nice delicate cotton garment over a giant goofy lump of ali with 4 quick release levers sticking out the side of it.

I always thought the simplest solution would be to take a router to the legs on the bottom of a 4" sleeve pallet to create a cavity in order to feed the sleeve of a long-sleeve garment on. I've never been game enough to try it though. I think there's quite a simple solution in that for M&R though, to choose an ali profile or extrusion with a thicker wall so when the cavity is milled out the pallet will still be strong enough to avoid flexing out of shape. It would be a worthwhile solution to run on a chameleon or another M&R manual press, would be an expensive exercise in ruining 12-14 of them for an auto though.

Yes!  I've had the same sorta thought about routering under the sleeve pallet but I'm scared as well, don't know how to do that sort stuff.

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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 11:34:37 PM »
We bit the bullet and bought the tapered pallets a while back. Made a huge difference loading on the auto and has allowed us to print pockets too.


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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2017, 05:54:31 AM »
We bit the bullet and bought the tapered pallets a while back. Made a huge difference loading on the auto and has allowed us to print pockets too.


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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2017, 08:05:42 AM »
The ROQ has a nifty pallet that looks like it can fit any sleeve on.

What pallet is this?

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Re: Printing Long Sleeves on M&R Press?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 10:37:36 AM »
It's about the only real drawback of M&R presses. My preference is for the simple and solid M&R clamp locking into the ali channel. Nothing is ever going to go wrong with it, and if something ever did it's a simple and cheap fix.

It just doesn't work for sleeves though. Trying to stretch a nice delicate cotton garment over a giant goofy lump of ali with 4 quick release levers sticking out the side of it.

I always thought the simplest solution would be to take a router to the legs on the bottom of a 4" sleeve pallet to create a cavity in order to feed the sleeve of a long-sleeve garment on. I've never been game enough to try it though. I think there's quite a simple solution in that for M&R though, to choose an ali profile or extrusion with a thicker wall so when the cavity is milled out the pallet will still be strong enough to avoid flexing out of shape. It would be a worthwhile solution to run on a chameleon or another M&R manual press, would be an expensive exercise in ruining 12-14 of them for an auto though.
You might want to look at our triple play pallets. makes printing sleeves  easy and you can specify the pallets widths individually
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