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Offline Prince Art

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shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« on: March 30, 2018, 12:27:47 AM »
First off, I recently downloaded the UltraSeps trial, so this is a noob question. Here goes:

I'm working with a file where one of the main colors in the design is supposed to NOT print, but rather let the shirt show through. Red shirt, red design elements. Art was supplied with the red intact in the design file. So, I'm wondering if there's a way to deal with this so that the channels for the other colors will be generated so that they interact with each other and the "shirt red" properly; and most importantly, so that the underbase will be generated properly.

If it helps to know: the art was originally designed to be a converted to an Index print. Colors would be red, which would be dropped out; then blue, black, and white. The design approach didn't take into account the need for a UB. It's not a broad spectrum of colors we're dealing with. But we need to make sure the UB is correct for the blue, which includes some tonal variation/gradients, but needs to print with only one blue ink.

Any insights? I've looked over the UltraSeps documentation, and didn't find this particular scenario addressed.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2018, 11:12:19 AM by Prince Art »
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2018, 10:52:58 AM »
Are you asking how to remove the red part of the ub to let the shirt show through?
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2018, 11:10:54 AM »
Essentially, yes. I've added a snip of the art to the top post to show what I'm talking about. Intended print colors are white UB, black, blue 2728, white HL. Red is toned by the black overprint, blue is toned by the white UB (and potentially black on top or black beneath). But the interplay between all the colors in the transparent/gradient areas has me concerned.
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2018, 12:38:18 PM »
I'll get you the answer in a minute
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2018, 01:40:42 PM »
call me @ 18702228670.  I keep getting an error when I try to reply anything lengthy
« Last Edit: March 30, 2018, 01:56:09 PM by Doug S »
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2018, 03:19:08 PM »
call me @ 18702228670.  I keep getting an error when I try to reply anything lengthy
could you perhaps post a screen shot of this error?
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2018, 04:42:33 PM »
Frog, here ya go!  I don't know what it means but I got the same message when I tried from my phone.  If I replied with a 1 or 2 liner it would work just fine.
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2018, 04:46:37 PM »
Just got the same message, too, when trying to post a couple of paragraphs.
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2018, 04:55:54 PM »
Test post of a .jpg.

That error could be from a posting attempt either too big or not one of the acceptable upload file types.



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I use Ultraseps all the time.  Can you send the artwork to [email protected] to take a look at it?
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2018, 05:12:25 PM »
Prince and Doug, were these posts of text only, or was there, as screenxpress mentioned, a possibly non-conforming image attached?
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2018, 05:15:34 PM »
Prince,

Check out the Merge/Subtract Feature in Ultraseps after running the sep process.

It may help, but will likely still require a fair amount of 'fiddling' to get what you want.

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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2018, 05:28:05 PM »
This just used your post image to run through so it's kind of rough.

It's the 6 kept channels with the Red knocked out of all with some extra deletes taken out of the white underbase.

The shirt 'background' box was duplicated and changed to Red to reflect the shirt color.

Gives you the idea.
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2018, 05:58:08 PM »
I'm getting that error now.

I think your hosting site is having some problems.

And it's happening even posting just a reply...with no attachment.
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2018, 06:03:46 PM »
Prince,

After 'MERGING' Aqua and Purple, this attachment shows only the Underbase, Blue, and Black channels after the Red was knocked out from before. 

I found that option produced some interesting results, even if it is 'rough'.


I had never done it before, but the software has options to 'Merge' certain selected channels after the sep.  I let it merge Purple and Aqua and was left with this.  I'll definitely be using that option in the future, lol.
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Re: shirt color as design color - UltraSeps question
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2018, 06:11:05 PM »
I'm getting that error now.

I think your hosting site is having some problems.

And it's happening even posting just a reply...with no attachment.
Thanks guys, I'm passing this along to our hosting techs (or techie hosts)
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