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Offline Fleetee

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Trilock and dip tank
« on: October 11, 2018, 08:23:48 AM »
I apologize in advance for bombarding this forum with so many questions. I have 2 questions today.

Question #1 - Is there anyway I can integrate a trilock system to a thin/clear/transparent preregistration system? I'm trying to think of a way but it's difficult because the preregistration system is so flimsy. Even though there is probably isn't a way, thought it wouldn't hurt to ask

Question #2 - What type of bin do you guys use for your dip tanks? I'm assuming it has to be some type of material because of all the chemicals being poured into it. Also can I have 3 separate dip tanks each chemical? Like 1 bin for degreaser, 1 bin for ink remover, and 1 bin for emulsion remover? Or is it not safe/good to use a dip tank for one of them. If so which one? (or two)


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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 08:38:16 AM »
#2. I would only use one bin, there are many available in the market including some on our website.
- Scrape as must ink out and back into the bucket as you can.
- Soak in tank for 2-3 min (Supra is our chemical for removing ink and emulsion)
- Pressure wash off ink and emulsion
- Apply stain remover and degreaser (701N is our combo chemical for this)
- Pressure wash off
- FLOOD RINSE!!! Everyone forgets this step no matter how they reclaim a screen. This is the MOST important step as it removes the last debris and chem that the pressure washer was moving around in the wash booth/on the screen.

There are also many other ways to reclaim screens that don't involve diptanks, generally they are not as economical, but they have their own advantages as well. Feel free to email me anytime to discuss. [email protected]
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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2018, 09:01:10 AM »
Hey Alex, just to clarify, this is 1 bin for both ink removal and emulsion removal right? I'm using the same tank and just using it according to my need? But wouldn't it be easier if I had 2 separate tanks so I am not over lapping chemicals and having to rinse of the ink/ink-removal if I need to use it for emulsion removal and vice versa? Or am I missing something here?
But thanks for the great feedback! :)

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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2018, 09:36:10 AM »
Its one tank and one chemical for both.
Supra in the tank at 1:5/7 depending on the speed you want it to reclaim at.
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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2018, 09:55:59 AM »
To be fair.
Some prefer two separate chemicals, and two separate dip tanks.
Some even use a third dip tank with just water to soak recently exposed screens to start the development process.
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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2018, 11:56:54 AM »
To be fair.
Some prefer two separate chemicals, and two separate dip tanks.
Some even use a third dip tank with just water to soak recently exposed screens to start the development process.

Agreed, just be careful running solvents for ink removal in tanks... drag out usually ends up killing any saving from spraying it on and scrubbing it.
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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2018, 12:57:26 PM »
Its one tank and one chemical for both.
Supra in the tank at 1:5/7 depending on the speed you want it to reclaim at.

Ahhhh I see, make sense now. May I have the link to your website please?

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2018, 01:02:26 PM »
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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2018, 09:09:14 AM »
Supra can take the ink and emulsion off.  But if you want to make your dip tank last longer, clean the ink off first. 

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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2018, 11:28:10 AM »
We use 1 tank for Supra, for emulsion removal. We originally used for ink removal too, but found we were having trouble with some inks (particularly whites*) not breaking down all the way & inhibiting emulsion breakdown. So, now we use Saati IR4 at the washout booth as soon as the screens come off the press, and use the Supra tank to reclaim later. We also use 701 spray as the final degrease. The IR4 has added a step, but our screens are now cleaning much more easily & thoroughly.
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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 02:36:04 PM »
#2. I would only use one bin, there are many available in the market including some on our website.
- Scrape as must ink out and back into the bucket as you can.
- Soak in tank for 2-3 min (Supra is our chemical for removing ink and emulsion)
- Pressure wash off ink and emulsion
- Apply stain remover and degreaser (701N is our combo chemical for this)
- Pressure wash off
- FLOOD RINSE!!! Everyone forgets this step no matter how they reclaim a screen. This is the MOST important step as it removes the last debris and chem that the pressure washer was moving around in the wash booth/on the screen.

There are also many other ways to reclaim screens that don't involve diptanks, generally they are not as economical, but they have their own advantages as well. Feel free to email me anytime to discuss. [email protected]

That is EXACTLY like I do it including the chemical. Its foolproof and your screens will come out spotless.. Buy a diptank!! Your looking at 300 bucks or CCI has one for 450 with all the start up chemical

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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2018, 02:37:09 PM »
Although I like the Easiway supra and 701

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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2018, 07:49:05 AM »
Supra and 701 here as well. We remove the ink with 701 before it goes in the dip tank though.

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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2018, 06:36:39 PM »
Supra and 701 here as well. We remove the ink with 701 before it goes in the dip tank though.

no reason to do that if they are scraped good becausae regardless you need to do the 701 step lasta nyway. seriously eliminate that step it is only costing you money

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Re: Trilock and dip tank
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2018, 06:39:02 AM »
I'll give another go. I tried it once and it didn't break down the ink like I expected it to do. It was a mess.