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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2019, 11:31:54 AM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin


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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2019, 12:26:04 PM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin

It has to do with adding wax before you really need to be.  It's like adding a full tank of gas to a car when it's on half a tank.

On the flip side, it's comical how many ink types ink jets have had to have developed to work properly, and how you may have to change emulsions for it to work properly.

Wax sticks to everything out there, is more opaque, and works great and we are using the same wax that has worked forever.  Having to cut a block of wax in half is a small trade off, everything has it's pros and cons

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2019, 12:37:27 PM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin

It has to do with adding wax before you really need to be.  It's like adding a full tank of gas to a car when it's on half a tank.

On the flip side, it's comical how many ink types ink jets have had to have developed to work properly, and how you may have to change emulsions for it to work properly.

Wax sticks to everything out there, is more opaque, and works great and we are using the same wax that has worked forever.  Having to cut a block of wax in half is a small trade off, everything has it's pros and cons

^^^^This.  Having used both wax and ink, I can say that I seriously doubt I would ever go back to ink.  There would have to be a pretty major advancement in ink to make me even think about it. 

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2019, 01:17:49 PM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin

It has to do with adding wax before you really need to be.  It's like adding a full tank of gas to a car when it's on half a tank.

On the flip side, it's comical how many ink types ink jets have had to have developed to work properly, and how you may have to change emulsions for it to work properly.

Wax sticks to everything out there, is more opaque, and works great and we are using the same wax that has worked forever.  Having to cut a block of wax in half is a small trade off, everything has it's pros and cons

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2019, 02:04:32 PM »
Ha. Apparently we have another ink coming out called Kara for the CTS. To be fair the machines are "ink pissers" as a work friend says but yeah, in the future we will probably just go laser if not then wax. It just seems to make more sense. I don't think the ink ones are bad but it is just the nature of ink

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2019, 02:43:23 PM »
The level of ink in the reservoir is determined by temperature. As the reservoir empties the temperature rises. At a set point the operator is prompted to add wax. If that set point is too low and you add wax you will get an overflow. Speak with a tech about this to change the set point. The print head also has an internal reservoir. The set point on this is when the head calls on the ink pump to replenish the supply. Set it too low and the reservoir will overflow causing the meniscus vacuum line to clog. That in turn allows the head to weep ink. I have been running a Kiwo I-jet for 9 years now and almost all of the trouble shooting is done by looking at temperature and vacuum pressure data.
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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2019, 03:45:17 PM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin

It has to do with adding wax before you really need to be.  It's like adding a full tank of gas to a car when it's on half a tank.

On the flip side, it's comical how many ink types ink jets have had to have developed to work properly, and how you may have to change emulsions for it to work properly.

Wax sticks to everything out there, is more opaque, and works great and we are using the same wax that has worked forever.  Having to cut a block of wax in half is a small trade off, everything has it's pros and cons

No one was COMPARING the 2 units . So Really what should have been discussed it when do you add more wax and why. I happen to like the I-IMAGE but everyone is different. Its all about how efficient is it making you, Has your quality improved and is your bottom line better not arguing who has the biggest toys. There are some young screen printers out there buying things they don't need because the read things on this forum. Just sayin

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2019, 03:50:56 PM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin

It has to do with adding wax before you really need to be.  It's like adding a full tank of gas to a car when it's on half a tank.

On the flip side, it's comical how many ink types ink jets have had to have developed to work properly, and how you may have to change emulsions for it to work properly.

Wax sticks to everything out there, is more opaque, and works great and we are using the same wax that has worked forever.  Having to cut a block of wax in half is a small trade off, everything has it's pros and cons

No one was COMPARING the 2 units . So Really what should have been discussed it when do you add more wax and why. I happen to like the I-IMAGE but everyone is different. Its all about how efficient is it making you, Has your quality improved and is your bottom line better not arguing who has the biggest toys. There are some young screen printers out there buying things they don't need because the read things on this forum. Just sayin

I think what kicked it off was your verbiage.  Mainly just the word comical.  It comes off as condescending, which makes people feel attacked and then the need to defend themselves and the decisions that they've made. 

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2019, 04:36:00 PM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin

It has to do with adding wax before you really need to be.  It's like adding a full tank of gas to a car when it's on half a tank.



Rick have you had a wax machine in any shop you worked in?
On the flip side, it's comical how many ink types ink jets have had to have developed to work properly, and how you may have to change emulsions for it to work properly.

Wax sticks to everything out there, is more opaque, and works great and we are using the same wax that has worked forever.  Having to cut a block of wax in half is a small trade off, everything has it's pros and cons

No one was COMPARING the 2 units . So Really what should have been discussed it when do you add more wax and why. I happen to like the I-IMAGE but everyone is different. Its all about how efficient is it making you, Has your quality improved and is your bottom line better not arguing who has the biggest toys. There are some young screen printers out there buying things they don't need because the read things on this forum. Just sayin
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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2019, 05:28:06 PM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin

It has to do with adding wax before you really need to be.  It's like adding a full tank of gas to a car when it's on half a tank.

On the flip side, it's comical how many ink types ink jets have had to have developed to work properly, and how you may have to change emulsions for it to work properly.

Wax sticks to everything out there, is more opaque, and works great and we are using the same wax that has worked forever.  Having to cut a block of wax in half is a small trade off, everything has it's pros and cons

No one was COMPARING the 2 units . So Really what should have been discussed it when do you add more wax and why. I happen to like the I-IMAGE but everyone is different. Its all about how efficient is it making you, Has your quality improved and is your bottom line better not arguing who has the biggest toys. There are some young screen printers out there buying things they don't need because the read things on this forum. Just sayin

I think what kicked it off was your verbiage.  Mainly just the word comical.  It comes off as condescending, which makes people feel attacked and then the need to defend themselves and the decisions that they've made.

It was condesending.because Its always the same people improving whats not broken to like be the biggest and the best. How rediculous to hear my 35k douthit screen cts doesnt work correctly untl that person ordered one, made the mods and now everyone elses should work now that person posted. then others have all of a sudden been doing the same to make there units work.  Maybe im just getting cynical and need to back off this forum for a while.

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2019, 05:58:49 PM »
I think its comical how people think they have to change a standard set up like the amount of wax put in a machine. Don't you guys think if it was a REAL problem that the Doutthit Corp. would have made the modification to half of the amount of wax?  Just sayin

It has to do with adding wax before you really need to be.  It's like adding a full tank of gas to a car when it's on half a tank.

On the flip side, it's comical how many ink types ink jets have had to have developed to work properly, and how you may have to change emulsions for it to work properly.

Wax sticks to everything out there, is more opaque, and works great and we are using the same wax that has worked forever.  Having to cut a block of wax in half is a small trade off, everything has it's pros and cons


Since we have come to comparing, I'll say this.
I have the opportunity to choose to buy a brand new top of the line WAX DTS, a new I-Image STEll, or a used 3 yr old i-Image STEll.  I'm going used. It's as good as the new. They are tanks and I can operate them with no issues with any one of the ink types.  That's just me.
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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2019, 06:34:18 PM »
yea but you wont have the bragging rights to the fact that you can hold a 2 percenter. Even though you may not even print halftones.. Yep they are on here.

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2019, 06:47:39 PM »
How rediculous to hear my 35k douthit screen cts doesnt work correctly untl that person ordered one, made the mods and now everyone elses should work now that person posted. then others have all of a sudden been doing the same to make there units work.  Maybe im just getting cynical and need to back off this forum for a while.

If you paid 35k for a Douthitt you got a smoking deal, I believe you are looking more in the high 50's.

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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2019, 07:04:49 PM »
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I have the opportunity to choose to buy a brand new top of the line WAX DTS, a new I-Image STEll, or a used 3 yr old i-Image STEll.  I'm going used. It's as good as the new. They are tanks and I can operate them with no issues with any one of the ink types.

Dan Have you worked in a shop that has a wax machine, have you personally experienced a side by side test of wax vs. ink?
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Re: CTS Wax - Taking the plunge
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2019, 08:22:20 PM »
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I have the opportunity to choose to buy a brand new top of the line WAX DTS, a new I-Image STEll, or a used 3 yr old i-Image STEll.  I'm going used. It's as good as the new. They are tanks and I can operate them with no issues with any one of the ink types.

Dan Have you worked in a shop that has a wax machine, have you personally experienced a side by side test of wax vs. ink?

Yes.
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