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Offline lancasterprinthouse

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Curing neck tags on press
« on: September 09, 2019, 07:10:51 PM »
Anybody out there curing neck tags with a quartz flash on press? We have a few clients that we higher volume neck tags for and I would love to be able to cure these on press so we don’t even have to unload down the dryer. If you’re doing it what inks are you using? My low cure ink still only goes to 270-ish which I think is still too high to cure on press with a quartz.

Any tips?


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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2019, 12:30:38 AM »
Do you print the shirts?
You could flash the neck tag before you print and cure with the print.
Another option to make the neck tag as a transfer and iron it on.
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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 06:05:45 AM »
  Believe it or not, you can use pad printing inks to screen print with. I have done it though not on textiles. They are not very opaque but a white could give you a gray that will cure by the time it goes around the press. It would take some experimenting with thinners to keep it from drying in the screen but I believe it could be done. I have printed on rubber-like materials that screen ink wouldn't adhere to.

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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 07:07:45 AM »
Do you print the shirts?
You could flash the neck tag before you print and cure with the print.
Another option to make the neck tag as a transfer and iron it on.

Good thought with flashing and then curing with the print. We’ve done transfers but it’s not very fast. At least, not as fast as an auto running 500/hour.


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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2019, 10:14:57 AM »
We print necks in Every order we do for retail and always flash then run the additional locations and cure then as maxie suggested. If we do have to print the inside necks last we do have to run them down the dryer. That can cause other issues depending on the garment so we try to run the inside necks first

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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2019, 10:16:51 AM »
Look at the action tag along!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNAuDiJLMqw
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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2019, 10:40:51 AM »
  Believe it or not, you can use pad printing inks to screen print with. I have done it though not on textiles. They are not very opaque but a white could give you a gray that will cure by the time it goes around the press. It would take some experimenting with thinners to keep it from drying in the screen but I believe it could be done. I have printed on rubber-like materials that screen ink wouldn't adhere to.

what kind of stencil/screen/squeegee did you use?  the pad print inks we have eat most types of plastic/rubber...   


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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2019, 12:35:27 PM »
  I used a 230 with Ulano RLX and just an ordinary 70 durometer solvent resistant squegee.

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Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2019, 06:15:08 PM »
We print necks in Every order we do for retail and always flash then run the additional locations and cure then as maxie suggested. If we do have to print the inside necks last we do have to run them down the dryer. That can cause other issues depending on the garment so we try to run the inside necks first

This method just blew my mind!
Gotta try this. Right off the bat it eliminates a lot of extra stacking by being able to take it right off the platen and back onto the pile.

I cannot imagine it not being cured after going through the dryer with a front print, even if the tag is partially covered by the rest of the shirt. Time to wash test!


I am not sold on the tag-along though. Interesting idea but looks like a pain in the ass to load and unload it. But my main concern is taking it off. If it’s not flashed then you’re in for a bad time.

My gut tells me that doing it Maxie’s way would be less work overall. Still just one trip down the oven, but I think I could load faster just doing necks or fronts than by trying to load/unload both on the same platen at the same time.
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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2019, 06:20:38 PM »
Look at the action tag along!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNAuDiJLMqw


I got a Diamondback so these are a no go for me. I’d be jumping the gap between tag and shirt due to stroke limitations.

Sounds like flashing and then curing with front print will be the best route for me.


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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2019, 03:50:30 PM »
Look at the action tag along!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNAuDiJLMqw

I don't think action makes the pallet in the videos? They are made by Livingston systems and sold exclusively thru M/R
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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2019, 07:20:35 AM »
Look at the action tag along!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNAuDiJLMqw

I don't think action makes the pallet in the videos? They are made by Livingston systems and sold exclusively thru M/R

livingston has them on their website...

https://www.livingstonsystems.com/shop/screen-printing/tag-along/tag-along/

if its to be sold exclusively through M&R, maybe livingston hasnt taken it off their website yet.

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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2019, 11:46:37 AM »
Look at the action tag along!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNAuDiJLMqw


I got a Diamondback so these are a no go for me. I’d be jumping the gap between tag and shirt due to stroke limitations.

Sounds like flashing and then curing with front print will be the best route for me.


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I will try to keep this short, only answer direct questions, and clarify any misinformation. I don't care for tolls either.

Lancasterprinthouse,
The Tag Alongs will work on a Diamondback. M&R ran a set of Tag Alongs in their booth at NBM Long Beach last month on a Diamondback. You mention the gap and stroke length so I suspect you've already looked into this but we should clarify for others: The main print image would be limited to 12"using the Tag Along on the Diamondback (due to stroke taken by tag, gap, and shirt dead space above main print). So if all or most of your jobs are >12", not your solution (yet).
(Also, small world, I was checking out your website and found you live 2 minutes from my wife's sister who lives on Owl Hill Rd. I'll have to stop by next time we are in town!)

Rick,
You are correct, it is not an Action Engineering product. Livingston Systems holds the patents and we have an exclusivity agreement with M&R. Our agreement states that M&R is the only manufacturer we can supply.

Happy printing,
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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2019, 11:20:57 AM »

Livingston Systems holds the patents and we have an exclusivity agreement with M&R. Our agreement states that M&R is the only manufacturer we can supply.

Well, that sucks. What’s the deal? If it’s a good idea then wouldn’t it be a good idea for more than one type of press?



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Re: Curing neck tags on press
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2019, 12:12:01 PM »

Livingston Systems holds the patents and we have an exclusivity agreement with M&R. Our agreement states that M&R is the only manufacturer we can supply.

Well, that sucks. What’s the deal? If it’s a good idea then wouldn’t it be a good idea for more than one type of press?



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Sorry I was not clear, trying not to troll here. If you are not a manufacturer (or distributor), you can buy direct from Livingston Systems.
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