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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: dirkdiggler on March 15, 2019, 10:12:02 PM

Title: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: dirkdiggler on March 15, 2019, 10:12:02 PM
So I have had mine for about a month now.  WOW....what a difference it makes.  I could have never justified buying a machine that rinses screens when I can do it just as good with my pressure washer...boy was I wrong!  I can now take a new hire 1st day on the job and they can make screens just as good as my 20 years of experience can.  And we dont have to stop the screen cleaner to do it.   So easy, so consistent, so smart!  Its one of those things you that you never want to go back from, like triloc or cts.  My opinion.
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: tonypep on March 15, 2019, 11:23:29 PM
Agree on all that. Great ROI and great performance. Just remember to drain and clean as needed!
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: mimosatexas on March 16, 2019, 06:56:54 PM
This JUST washes out post exposure?
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: dirkdiggler on March 16, 2019, 08:02:44 PM
This JUST washes out post exposure?

Yes
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: tonypep on March 16, 2019, 08:43:19 PM
The EcoWash is for reclaim. Several options however it is a totally different machine. The Rinse is just water and the Wash obviously uses ink degrader and stencil remover. Not in everyones budget but very well designed machines.
Depending on water ph you may need to keep a gallon of Antifoam for the Rinse machine. In both cases, you can not run them without regular maintenance. Especially the Wash. Sometimes learning the hard way can pay off!
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: dirkdiggler on March 17, 2019, 08:05:15 AM
The EcoWash is for reclaim. Several options however it is a totally different machine. The Rinse is just water and the Wash obviously uses ink degrader and stencil remover. Not in everyones budget but very well designed machines.
Depending on water ph you may need to keep a gallon of Antifoam for the Rinse machine. In both cases, you can not run them without regular maintenance. Especially the Wash. Sometimes learning the hard way can pay off!

Correct! and a half cup of bleach!
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: CBCB on March 17, 2019, 09:02:37 AM
I saw very basic looking one at ISS Longbeach in 2018. Never saw anything about it after that, though. It looks like it’d be cheap.

https://imgur.com/gallery/3scdPXv

Anyone got info on these?


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Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: lancasterprinthouse on March 17, 2019, 10:43:51 AM
I saw very basic looking one at ISS Longbeach in 2018. Never saw anything about it after that, though. It looks like it’d be cheap.

https://imgur.com/gallery/3scdPXv

Anyone got info on these?


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Found this:

https://www.davisint.com/p-747-automatic-screen-washer.aspx


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Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: TCT on March 18, 2019, 11:02:59 AM
I saw very basic looking one at ISS Longbeach in 2018. Never saw anything about it after that, though. It looks like it’d be cheap.

https://imgur.com/gallery/3scdPXv

Anyone got info on these?


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This is the one I had talked to the company about modifying for a auto rinse for us. Should be able to review is soon.
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: BP on March 18, 2019, 02:37:15 PM
How much does a Eco Rinse cost?
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: dirkdiggler on March 18, 2019, 04:24:17 PM
How much does a Eco Rinse cost?

$32k Shipped and installed
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: Admiral on March 19, 2019, 11:37:41 AM
While I would love the consistency of it, we couldn't justify it as it doesn't save time.  We do use a dip tank post exposure.

I will wait for a chain driven line with exposure, washout, drying.  New Holland at ISS Long Beach this year had one with exposure and washout, close to what I would want.
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: hoogie on March 19, 2019, 02:40:51 PM
I saw very basic looking one at ISS Longbeach in 2018. Never saw anything about it after that, though. It looks like it’d be cheap.

https://imgur.com/gallery/3scdPXv

Anyone got info on these?


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This is the one I had talked to the company about modifying for a auto rinse for us. Should be able to review is soon.

Curious to see what you have to say in the review on this one, 9K for the washer...I've haven't seen pricing for the emulsion remover system yet. I've got a couple of emails in for pricing as a full system to see if there are any breaks for buying both at the same time. Seems really simple, I'll have to run the numbers for ROI when they get back with pricing.
Title: Re: M&R Eco Rinse
Post by: TCT on March 19, 2019, 03:01:35 PM

Curious to see what you have to say in the review on this one, 9K for the washer...I've haven't seen pricing for the emulsion remover system yet. I've got a couple of emails in for pricing as a full system to see if there are any breaks for buying both at the same time. Seems really simple, I'll have to run the numbers for ROI when they get back with pricing.


The emulsion remover is a lot more. They have all brass fittings and a much heavier duty pump so it can all stand up to the emulsion remover chemical.

The basic idea though is to take one of their units and strip the guts out of it and put a cheap pump(it could even be a $150 power washer from Menards for all I care) and basic fittings. I don't care about re using the water really for ours it can go down the drain. We reclaim all the water from our roof and our neighbors yard in a holding tank so we have more water than we really need.

While I would love the consistency of it, we couldn't justify it as it doesn't save time.  We do use a dip tank post exposure.

We use the same set up. It is not about saving time per screen per say. My goal is to have 1 person working in a "circuit" if you will.... Take the screen out of the exposure unit, put the screen from the CTS into the exposure unit, new screen in the CTS, bring the exposed screen to the dip tank, previous one from dip tank to auto wash out, ect. The list can go on if you want to throw auto reclaim into the loop also.
Since we are WB/DC we can wash out screens after dip tank faster manually than a auto emulsion remover can, but it is the thought of moving every screen to a new station along the way where it automatically gets processed that I like.