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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: ZooCity on May 01, 2018, 07:28:59 PM

Title: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: ZooCity on May 01, 2018, 07:28:59 PM
Ordering 2 new dip tanks for the shop and I asked Dan at CCI if they would consider building us a drain board that attaches to the units.

I wanted a station above the tank to let some chem flow off the screens and back into the tank, reduce drips transferring screens from tank to washout booth and create an additional station for the screens to keep that workflow moving.  Lots of synergistic benefits here for such a simple attachment.

Anyways, ask and you shall receive, here's the prototype!  This will be a ≈$180 option on their tanks.

Will report back after we get 'em in and actually use them.   Thoughts?
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: ebscreen on May 01, 2018, 08:08:32 PM
That's super handy. I would never have thought to ask.

I guess I don't have to learn how to weld aluminum now.
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: Biverson on May 01, 2018, 09:10:18 PM
That’s awesome! You get a royalty deal worked out for that idea? ????


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Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: LoneWolf2 on May 01, 2018, 09:37:39 PM
Love that idea. i've been brainstorming something similar to this for our tanks. Well worth the $
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: Prince Art on May 01, 2018, 10:48:51 PM
That's great that they accommodated. Probably will be a win-win-win - for you, them, and future customers. We have a DIY drain board over our tank, and it very obviously saves chemical & reduces mess.
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: Itsa Little CrOoked on May 02, 2018, 10:08:17 AM
Wow.

This is a GREAT idea!!! I wonder if I can retrofit mine.


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Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: T Shirt Farmer on May 02, 2018, 10:30:06 AM
Often referred to as Drag Out boards, platting shops use them so the tank chemistry drains back to tank. Here is the one I made from plywood maybe $1.99 in materials and 2 cocktails for inspiration.
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: easyrider1340 on May 02, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
Be nice if the lid was hinged and created the drag out board. 


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Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: ZooCity on May 02, 2018, 12:52:09 PM
Be nice if the lid was hinged and created the drag out board. 


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Ohhh, I like that.  I worry about moving parts on things that contain liquid though.
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: rusty on May 02, 2018, 02:36:21 PM
this is great, was thinking of making something similar.
is it on an angle  so fluid can fall back in tank?

Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: ZooCity on May 02, 2018, 03:10:54 PM
this is great, was thinking of making something similar.
is it on an angle  so fluid can fall back in tank?

Yes it appears to be.  I hope it is!
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: Logoman on May 10, 2018, 08:03:01 AM
Can someone tell me cost to fill a tank and how long the chemicals last until you have to refill and what chemical to use? We use spray bottles and they are a pain from time to time
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: dirkdiggler on May 10, 2018, 03:52:59 PM
Can someone tell me cost to fill a tank and how long the chemicals last until you have to refill and what chemical to use? We use spray bottles and they are a pain from time to time

Buy the dip tank no matter the cost!  Trust me!  You will never look back!  And you will be kicking yourself for not doing it sooner!
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: ZooCity on May 10, 2018, 03:57:49 PM
Depends on the chem you are tossing in there and if it gets mixed with water or not. 

We just bought a drum of CCI Envirosolve which is super cheap at about $16/gal and works best overall for our shop since we have multiple ink types.  It's already pretty loaded with water I believe so we'll use it straight up in the tank and recirc station for washing tooling.  I'm sure something like 701 or a more plastisol aggressive cleaner would cost quite a bit more but would also last a long time I would imagined.

dirkdiggler, you use an ink cleaner dip tank too?  Sound like you like it, what's yer setup?
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: dirkdiggler on May 10, 2018, 04:02:17 PM
Depends on the chem you are tossing in there and if it gets mixed with water or not. 

We just bought a drum of CCI Envirosolve which is super cheap at about $16/gal and works best overall for our shop since we have multiple ink types.  It's already pretty loaded with water I believe so we'll use it straight up in the tank and recirc station for washing tooling.  I'm sure something like 701 or a more plastisol aggressive cleaner would cost quite a bit more but would also last a long time I would imagined.

dirkdiggler, you use an ink cleaner dip tank too?  Sound like you like it, what's yer setup?

We have 1 tank, we scrap ink off press and then they go in dip tank for 1 to 2 minutes.    Easiway Supra in the tank, then 2 squirts of 701, then hit with a pressure washer and done!  45 minutes to do a rack of 20.
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: farmboygraphics on May 11, 2018, 04:48:29 AM
This is how I use my "dip" tank. https://youtu.be/PH-S8No5SRc (https://youtu.be/PH-S8No5SRc)
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: 1964GN on May 12, 2018, 07:06:25 AM
Ordering 2 new dip tanks for the shop and I asked Dan at CCI if they would consider building us a drain board that attaches to the units.

I wanted a station above the tank to let some chem flow off the screens and back into the tank, reduce drips transferring screens from tank to washout booth and create an additional station for the screens to keep that workflow moving.  Lots of synergistic benefits here for such a simple attachment.

Anyways, ask and you shall receive, here's the prototype!  This will be a ≈$180 option on their tanks.

Will report back after we get 'em in and actually use them.   Thoughts?

Do you have the overall dimensions? We have that dip tank and want to add that add-on. Setting up our new washout booths in the new facility and it would be helpful to have the overall, if you have it, before the plumbing goes in for a sink and washout booth.
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: ZooCity on May 14, 2018, 06:25:11 PM
From our man at CCI:

Overall depth is 34 inches tray+tank.

The tray slots are 3 inches each. 

Other dims would be specific to the dip tank size you got I suppose.   Ours is the DST-2 which should be at 45 3/4” x 34”x 30” with the drip tray installed.
Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: Atownsend on May 27, 2018, 11:14:52 PM
Lots of great stuff in this thread. Thank you all for the inspiration! Our screen guy has been out so I have been stepping up to man reclaim last week, and I realized how broken the processes were. I didn't want to wait for CCI to finish prototyping so I went ahead and threw together a "drag out board" for our reclaim tank. I cut down an old shelf that I had taken down and never put back up and added a few 2x4's & furring strips. Every single angle is wrong, And it is a little jerry rigged, but I am more of a build it as you go guy and don't really care as long as it is functional. And functional it is! this thing rules. I did 50 screens with it tonight, which cost me a little more than 3.5hrs with a fresh tank of gemzyme. 

Our reclaim guy would let the screens sit in the tank allowing the emulsion to dissolve to the bottom eventually killing the tank. Now screens will be removed immediately after the dip like what farmboy does. It is definitely an improvement for us as far as reclaim workflow goes. It should most definitely help with the life of the chems.

My screen guy will be back on tuesday and is going to be totally blown away, I should have definitely been paying more attention to what was going on with reclaim, the whole process was seriously broken. Gonna be some retraining next week!

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Title: Re: New CCI Dip Tanks
Post by: CBCB on May 30, 2018, 11:32:30 PM
I made one, as well! Prototype of course, picture is below.

Right now we run a low ratio of Supra in our dip tank so that we have the 2min to soak while washing the next screen without overdoing it and putting emulsion in the tank.

Thinking about raising our concentration so we can do a ‘dip’ instead of a ‘soak’. It’s a dip tank after all.
I think this workflow will shave significant time off of our process.

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