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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Cole on May 04, 2018, 02:39:32 PM
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Can someone recommend a good scale for weighing out ink? I do a lot of water base PMS matches and need something accurate. I'd like to have a scale that can go from .001 Grams to 1000 Grams. I've done some searching, but can't find a good option.
Thanks!
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Sartorius.
Get one from a paint shop, they let them go cheap.
If you use the Wilflex IMS you'll want a particular model to connect it to the system, worth it!
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If you use the Wilflex IMS you'll want a particular model to connect it to the system, worth it!
I've been meaning to do this for the 5 years we've had our Sartorius. I'm glad to hear
it's worth the effort.
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Sartorius.
Get one from a paint shop, they let them go cheap.
If you use the Wilflex IMS you'll want a particular model to connect it to the system, worth it!
Whoah. I just checked them out online. Those are pretty pricey! I'll have to do some shopping around town and see if anyone local carries them. Thanks for the recommendation!
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We upgraded our .X to a .0X and did the usb connection option. Works fine with IMS 3.0. The IMS interface with the scale connected is dope.
Cole, I scored the aforementioned one we upgraded for not much on craigslist. Auto body and regular commercial paint shops seem to have them often, I think they're mfg's include scales often. But yes, pricey new.
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Amazon scales for about $20 bucks 1 oz to 56 lbs
Mooseman
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For one until you can move up the ladder, I use a Cen-Tech from Harbor Freight for 19.99.
This precision digital scale has an easy-to-read LCD display that shows weight in ounces, grams, or pounds up to 11 lbs.. The digital scale has a "tare" feature so you can weigh packaged items without counting the weight of a container. Sealed buttons prevent damage from spills.
Maximum capacity of 176 ounces (11 lbs. or 5000 grams)
Three modes of measuring: grams, ounces and pounds
Tare setting calculates net weight of items in containers
Automatic 40 second shut off
Sealed buttons to prevent damage from spills
Removable platform for easy cleaning
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I got a Radwag 2000 WTC Precision scale on eBay for $200. Very happy with it. Can weigh up to 2000 grams at 0.01. I got tired of buying the $20 ones from Amazon only to have the display go out.
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Is the Sartorius CM 8200-X00TN compatible with Wilflex IMS? Found one on craigslist and been wanting to move over to the Wilflex mixing system for a while anyway...
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We have a 30+ year old Mettler we picked up at an auction for the cost of lunch at Wendy's. It doesn't hook up to any system, being that old, but it does have the Tare feature, which is super helpful. Check out eBay and craigslist, and not necessarily in the screen printing section...
Steve
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I've been using an AWS scale that I got from Anthem Printing in SF, but I wasn't too careful with it. So now some of the buttons get stuck due to ink working its way into the cracks. Figured it would be a good time to upgrade. Those Sartorius ones seem like the Cadillac of scales. I'll probably go for the Radwag one that Biverson mentioned. I don't have a need (for now) to have the scale connect to my mixing system. I am using the CCI CMS system and I don't think it even has that capability. Now you guys have me interested in the IMS system from Wilflex. I've never heard of it til now. I'll give my Wilflex rep a call on Monday and see what it's all about! I only started using water base last year, so I'm still testing out different systems to see what works best for my shop. Thanks for all the suggestions guys! Much appreciated!
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I've also got the Wilflex PC system and have never had a problem with the Radwag and measuring.
I'm not sure how everyone else does it, but I took my pigments and put them in large condiment bottles for precise measurements and am always able to get it dead on (+/- 0.02g).
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what does hooking the scale up to the software do? i'm looking to get a new scale and would like to know.
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You get a nice visual interface and procedure for adding each colorant. It's a bell/whistle for sure but pretty helpful if you are busy with multiple mixes or if the ink mixer gets pulled away at times for other tasks. No need to jot anything down or mentally track anything, just select the PC and add until you get the go ahead.
When you finish mixing you can print out a label with exactly what you mixed right out of the system. We have a nicer Zebra printer hooked up to the system with a couple different colored labels we swap between to signify standard plastisol v. performance on the shelf, etc.
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You get a nice visual interface and procedure for adding each colorant. It's a bell/whistle for sure but pretty helpful if you are busy with multiple mixes or if the ink mixer gets pulled away at times for other tasks. No need to jot anything down or mentally track anything, just select the PC and add until you get the go ahead.
When you finish mixing you can print out a label with exactly what you mixed right out of the system. We have a nicer Zebra printer hooked up to the system with a couple different colored labels we swap between to signify standard plastisol v. performance on the shelf, etc.
is it PC only?
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Doesn't it recalculate if you go over on a component?
I really need to get this hooked up. Our best mixing gal is our worst maths gal.
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Doesn't it recalculate if you go over on a component?
I really need to get this hooked up. Our best mixing gal is our worst maths gal.
That's how those pint mixes end up two gallons!
I visualize the Three Stooges working as barbers trying to even up a mustache or haircut, "recalculating" with scissors!
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That's how those pint mixes end up two gallons!
I visualize the Three Stooges working as barbers trying to even up a mustache or haircut, "recalculating" with scissors!
Haha. At least you can always add, but can only take away so much.
When I first started I had many a gallon of gawd-dammit-brown. Because browns were always the hardest to match.
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Yes it'll recalculate if you over add a component. Recycle function too but that's not used too much here.
Pretty sure we still have a bucket of Pantone Baby Poop C on the shelf somewhere.
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but that only works if you put more of the first color in, say the mixing white. Because if you put more of the 3rd color in, then it would calculate to add more of the 1st and 2nd?
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but that only works if you put more of the first color in, say the mixing white. Because if you put more of the 3rd color in, then it would calculate to add more of the 1st and 2nd?
That's correct.
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Yes it'll recalculate if you over add a component. Recycle function too but that's not used too much here.
Pretty sure we still have a bucket of Pantone Baby Poop C on the shelf somewhere.
You must have our Baby Poop C! We had about 5 gallons of it few years back. I kept saving it thinking we'll need it. Finally got rid of it and did not even realize it wa gone until reading this post. Must be 5 years now!
pierre