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Offline mimosatexas

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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2014, 10:51:48 AM »
Does anyone have any idea why the CCI would be so much more abrasive/caustic to the HVP emulsion?


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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2014, 02:49:59 PM »
It may have solvents in it....
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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2014, 04:09:23 PM »
mimosatexas,

May I suggest you try a CCI emulsion for better results. Try TX-Discharge or WR-14, they will not break down with our ink. The info for each product is below.

WR-14 http://www.ccidom.com/products.php?product=WR%252d14-WATER-RESIST-EMULSION

TX-Discharge http://www.ccidom.com/products.php?product=TX%252dDISCHARGE-WATER-RESIST-EMULSION

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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2014, 04:48:56 PM »
I'll dote on the WR-14, love that stuff.

That said, the Aquasol had never let us down either.

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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2014, 05:12:33 PM »
I really do love the Aquasol, but I'm surprised that no other brand of ink eats away at it the way the CCI does.  I have even printed solvent and epoxy inks through it before in small runs without issue.  I'll order some WR14, I see that tossed around on the boards often enough to trust it.

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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2014, 07:57:37 PM »
did some more testing today with WR14, and unless you have SUPER strong light source, FORGET IT!  You will be exposing til the cows come home to get it right.
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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2014, 09:13:47 PM »
mimo, try the tx-discharge. it's almost exactly like hpv, we used to use hvp for a while then switched over to tx because I could get it local.. been on it for about 2 years, it's awesome. same price point too, around 55/gal...
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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2014, 09:34:12 PM »
WR-14 8) I have had very good luck & not a lot of added time on burning for us, but that's just us. Using CCI base & PC. I have some Xenon Nova but I have not had the proper spot to give a shot, but that's another subject.

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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2014, 09:13:56 AM »
What about  softness and washing?.

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Re: Discharge Whites Compared
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2014, 12:18:53 PM »
I properly cured the inks, so my wash test saw no appreciable difference in opacity change across brands.  I have only washed it once though at this point.  The CCI and Matsui
"ideal" mixes had a similar hand (essentially no hand).