Author Topic: Was thinking CMYK + spot, now I'm thinking mostly spot + a little blending  (Read 5145 times)

Offline Gilligan

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Just need to bid on this for right now, but the only thing that really has any "process" to it, is the Yellow.

So I started adding up colors and it wasn't far off CMYK + Spot Red.  This is going on white shirts.

I have Black,  Golden Yellow, Red, Flesh (technically the Conch Shell isn't but I'm sure they would go for it, or I could halftone in some red), green and purple.

Halftoning Green for background and Purple for the "splash" area... probably need to blend golden yellow and red to get that texture in the text and belt.

Is that the better/easier way to approach this?  Just Spot Color vs full blown CMYK (which we've never done before) + the spot Red as that isn't gonna come from CMYK and the purple is a little muted as well.


Offline mk162

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when it comes to stuff like this, I would rather do an 8 color sim-process job than a CMYK job.  I loathe CMYK.

you will come a lot closer with sim process or spot colors than CMYK, especially on your first go.

Offline ol man

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when it comes to stuff like this, I would rather do an 8 color sim-process job than a CMYK job.  I loathe CMYK.

you will come a lot closer with sim process or spot colors than CMYK, especially on your first go.

Ditto

Offline Gilligan

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That's what I've always heard/read.  Which is part of why I started counting colors.

Offline blue moon

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add a white to the lighter green and purple so they look better on the shirt. very light halftones on white look like there is not enough ink deposited.

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Looks like a nice spot job with some halftones of colors and like P said use a white base, sim would work nice too.

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Pierre, you are saying throw down an underbase essentially?

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Let's keep in mind, I have a 6 color press. ;)

Offline Parker 1

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I would bid it at 6 colors:
-Red
-Yellow
-Green
-Purple
-Black
-HL White

Offline Gilligan

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I would bid it at 6 colors:
-Red
-Yellow
-Green
-Purple
-Black
-HL White

Chris, what would you do for the flesh color?

Offline mimosatexas

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Re: Was thinking CMYK + spot, now I'm thinking mostly spot + a little blending
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2014, 12:06:51 PM »
You can make a pretty great flesh color with red yellow and white.  I've done it a bunch of times.

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Re: Was thinking CMYK + spot, now I'm thinking mostly spot + a little blending
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2014, 12:44:44 PM »
Pierre, you are saying throw down an underbase essentially?

highlight white, no ubase needed on white. Blending it in with the green will give you better coverage and make the print look less grainy and airy.

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Re: Was thinking CMYK + spot, now I'm thinking mostly spot + a little blending
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2014, 12:52:23 PM »
I budgeted it for professional separations.

We probably could do it if it wasn't all these crazy tricks to make it look good... sheesh! ;)

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Re: Was thinking CMYK + spot, now I'm thinking mostly spot + a little blending
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2014, 01:17:25 PM »
You should be able to sep this pretty simply in house.  For the flesh color it is basically a very low percentage of yellow and slightly more red and a whole lot of white.  I honestly don't remember the exact percentages, and they would depend on your inks and process as well.

For the light shades and the red and yellow blends, you just need a small percentage of top white and knock the red back just a bit to allow for gain over the yellow, or print the red first and overprint the yellow.  From looking at the art, I don't think you need to be too concerned with hitting absolutely exact shades...

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Re: Was thinking CMYK + spot, now I'm thinking mostly spot + a little blending
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2014, 01:27:41 PM »
Pierre, you are saying throw down an underbase essentially?

highlight white, no ubase needed on white. Blending it in with the green will give you better coverage and make the print look less grainy and airy.

pierre

wet on wet would blend better, correct? What percentage white would you use to get those hues? White last? I have never tried this but seems pretty cool and I would definitely use it in the future on something. Thanks!