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Iron or Stampinator
Logowear:
I have a Roq You 9/10 with 2 flashes and an Action roller screen.
I feel it take me so long to load that the ink cools and doesn't get rolled properly.
I'm thinking a Roq Iron or Stampinator may be better suited for my single load/unload setup.
What are your preferences and pros/cons for each of these?
I was told you could do foil with the Stampinator. I've recently been asked if I can do foil.
ericheartsu:
stampinator. we have one on ever press.
BUT, you need to check with ROQ, as there are some issues with them being on YOU presses.
doing foil with the stampinator is possible, but def. takes time to work out how to do it right. as well as possibly having to upgrade your pallets to rubber top.
zanegun08:
We have both a stampinator and a hot head.
My press operators seam to like the hot head better, but I think that the stampinator is more effective.
One thing, with the stampinator if going on hoodies it won't work great at least on a M&R press as it comes down uneven on the garment as it's offset but the hood.
So in that instance the hot head is better since you can control the length of the stroke.
We had early issues with the stampinator and it losing heat in a run, however we were using it to cure the under base, which you can't do with the hot head. I think that is mostly remedied now, as well as you could throw a flash in front of it and use it in the head after.
Having both is the best option, but if I had to choose one I'm for the stampinator, I think if you are a business owner and not an employee like me, there are a lot of creative uses for it, however getting my coworkers to think outside the box just doesn't quite happen.
I'd like to use it to apply inside neck labels, ask Eric to send you a video of his "RapidStamper" it's rad, that's what I want, I also like to use it near the end of a print run to smooth the print before it goes through a dryer, not just for the bases.
One thing though as far as heat, if you are loading slowly, a lot of the heat should come from your pallets so although it may not be as hot from the top you should have a good temperature coming from the bottom which you are pressing the ink against. However a roller is like a fraction of a second of direct contact, a hot head is like 1.5 second, and a stamper is like 6 seconds or however long you want to set it. So you'll get a much better smooth surface from a stampinator as it's more time, and more solid direct down pressure than a moving tool across a surface.
I'd get way more if my coworkers would use them more, and they weren't some effin expensive, I think I could get China to make them for a fraction of the cost. The patent is on the springs in it, M&R used to make them I-kiss, it's not rocket science, why the rocket ship price?
ericheartsu:
--- Quote from: zanegun08 on January 21, 2021, 09:15:56 PM ---We have both a stampinator and a hot head.
My press operators seam to like the hot head better, but I think that the stampinator is more effective.
One thing, with the stampinator if going on hoodies it won't work great at least on a M&R press as it comes down uneven on the garment as it's offset but the hood.
So in that instance the hot head is better since you can control the length of the stroke.
We had early issues with the stampinator and it losing heat in a run, however we were using it to cure the under base, which you can't do with the hot head. I think that is mostly remedied now, as well as you could throw a flash in front of it and use it in the head after.
Having both is the best option, but if I had to choose one I'm for the stampinator, I think if you are a business owner and not an employee like me, there are a lot of creative uses for it, however getting my coworkers to think outside the box just doesn't quite happen.
I'd like to use it to apply inside neck labels, ask Eric to send you a video of his "RapidStamper" it's rad, that's what I want, I also like to use it near the end of a print run to smooth the print before it goes through a dryer, not just for the bases.
One thing though as far as heat, if you are loading slowly, a lot of the heat should come from your pallets so although it may not be as hot from the top you should have a good temperature coming from the bottom which you are pressing the ink against. However a roller is like a fraction of a second of direct contact, a hot head is like 1.5 second, and a stamper is like 6 seconds or however long you want to set it. So you'll get a much better smooth surface from a stampinator as it's more time, and more solid direct down pressure than a moving tool across a surface.
I'd get way more if my coworkers would use them more, and they weren't some effin expensive, I think I could get China to make them for a fraction of the cost. The patent is on the springs in it, M&R used to make them I-kiss, it's not rocket science, why the rocket ship price?
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you can use the stampinator for transfers too. That's actually super cool. It is, like foil, hard to learn how to do it correctly, and takes some mcguyvering.
Hemi:
Does the stampinator leave noticable impression marks on the garment? I've seen some photos of the shirts on press after being stamped and you can clearly see the shape from the heating element just like you could get from an actual heat press. Which it's basically the same thing right?
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