Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison
We started at 8 for years , I have a few kids and used to do a lot of running around. When they became more self sufficient we changed to 7am start 4:30 finish and haven't looked back starting at 8or 9 seems like such a waste, My guys generally are in around 6:45 and presses are usually spinning by 7:15 . We also kept the same hours in the winter . When its slower in Jan/feb we don't work Fridays and that has worked out well.