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Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« on: May 22, 2024, 01:29:18 PM »
Hi Mr. Frog read in post you have this printer setup for art films. I am running the old R1800 with no rip been doing so since 08. I purchased the ET-15000 and tried it with no rip and transparency film with no luck. The printer starts to print and then stops not being able to see the transparency. Also doing the tricks online with backing with white paper works but pain in ass and is not dark enough on black. Any help with how you are setup to use this printer is greatly appreciated. I do limited work and do not see need for 3K film printer. Thanks


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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2024, 02:18:01 PM »
Wow. I have had no problem with the printer "seeing" the film that I can recall. I hardly shoot any film any more, but here's a shot of my settings that I established in Preferences.
I'm feeding from the back tray.
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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2024, 02:25:33 PM »
I just ran one to make sure that I gave you correct information, and it worked fine!
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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2024, 05:45:02 PM »
I also print on an Epson (alas 3800) and always wonder if the color setting in the print driver (you use black/grey) would make a difference. I imagine if it would use black but mix a bit of cyan inside, it might be more dense? in a test print, I couldn´t really see a difference on the film judging by eye sight..

I could see a difference when I printed a vector in "rich black" vs 100%k black.

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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2024, 09:10:09 AM »
Thanks for information what program are you using to print from? The print window is different from mine. I use Corel and did try from PDF viewer just to see. My thought was to mimic your setup from print window then work out bugs with Corel selections later. Your help is much appreciated.

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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2024, 11:00:45 AM »
Thanks for information what program are you using to print from? The print window is different from mine. I use Corel and did try from PDF viewer just to see. My thought was to mimic your setup from print window then work out bugs with Corel selections later. Your help is much appreciated.

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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2024, 11:36:32 AM »
Well hell I'm on X18 and have the ransom version (Subscription) on another computer. My print window defaults to my old one from R1800 minus lots of options under the ET15000 annoying at best. Will try web search on how to maybe get different print window. If that don't work will bug you some more. Thanks again.

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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2024, 11:38:27 AM »
Are you using RIP on yours????

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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2024, 11:57:50 AM »
Just checked the ET15000 manual and shows same print window you have but mine is not. So now will try and figure that part out.
Let me know about RIP though. Thanks

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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2024, 12:29:25 PM »
Just checked the ET15000 manual and shows same print window you have but mine is not. So now will try and figure that part out.
Let me know about RIP though. Thanks

I use no RIP.  In fact, as I mentioned, I hardly ever even make films as I have someone else handle most screen printing for me nowadays.
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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2024, 01:16:14 PM »
there are two types of film. one is is matt and sorta milky while the other one is clear. The matt type is called waterproof and it's what probably should be used.
What are you using? Thinking is that if you are using clear that would explain the problems printer is having with recognizing the film...
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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2024, 01:34:27 PM »
there are two types of film. one is is matt and sorta milky while the other one is clear. The matt type is called waterproof and it's what probably should be used.
What are you using? Thinking is that if you are using clear that would explain the problems printer is having with recognizing the film...
pj

Good point. Since I have always used pigment inks, I have also always used the "frosty" film.
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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2024, 01:02:59 AM »
I'll be interested in hearing the solution here.  I've always thought paper loading (or failure) was a physical action, not an optical one of "seeing" a successful load vs. a "trigger" sensor switch indication.  Color me curious. 
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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2024, 02:24:07 PM »
Yeah, so I do use waterproof film and that was used as test when first got printer. Think some of the issue is that my print window is not what Mr. Frog posted. I checked the other computer, and it is same there as Frogs is. Which is a great start to retest the 15000 with settings. The only difference I see offhand is the new computer runs Win11 and old is on Win 10. Will try and test this weekend been fighting my 1800 to get some films done for work this weekend.

Mr. Frog what color channel Black are you using? 100% Black is what I use on the 1800.
Also on more options tab do you have color correction on auto and Bidirectional checked?

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One place read last year was this one talking about the sensor to read the paper. I think my problem and theirs is I did not have the selection of correct paper.
Search "Issues printing transparencies with ET-15000" on Reddit has one conversation about issue.

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Re: Mr. Frog please help with Epson ET-15000
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2024, 02:41:07 PM »


Mr. Frog what color channel Black are you using? 100% Black is what I use on the 1800.
Also on more options tab do you have color correction on auto and Bidirectional checked?



I have no option of black color channels, and use RGB black in all art I create.
No to the bi-directional option. I've attached the details of the settings visible option on this shot
And, yes, this machine is on Windows 11
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