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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: farmboygraphics on November 16, 2023, 07:43:52 AM
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Anyone used this, thoughts? https://www.print-grip.com/ (https://www.print-grip.com/)
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interesting. I just ordered the sample pack..... I remember a film / top coat paper material that was like teeth / velcro for hoodies, I don't know what ever happened to that. If there's a better way to go, I'm all for it.
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Sticky paper right?, I can it being faster to use than what I do now which is apply my pallet tape then coat with glue, but as far as getting it sticky again I do the same thing until it just needs to be removed. Cost per sheet vs cost per roll of pallet tape would come into play for me.
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interesting. I just ordered the sample pack..... I remember a film / top coat paper material that was like teeth / velcro for hoodies, I don't know what ever happened to that. If there's a better way to go, I'm all for it.
If you find out what that was and if it's still on the market for hoodies let me know, I hate printing hoodies because I have to use that web tack spray, the glue just won't hold then in place well enough.
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Sticky paper right?, I can it being faster to use than what I do now which is apply my pallet tape then coat with glue, but as far as getting it sticky again I do the same thing until it just needs to be removed. Cost per sheet vs cost per roll of pallet tape would come into play for me.
we do the same, we do two or three layers of R tape and dye our glue purple so we can see it while applying. Print a few weeks then tear off a layer, re glue.... If we can go longer between changing out the tape or re glueing, I'm all for it. Cost doesn't matter to me as much as quality of life, applying pallet tape sucks and takes way too long. Spray glues of any kind is devil spawn.
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interesting. I just ordered the sample pack..... I remember a film / top coat paper material that was like teeth / velcro for hoodies, I don't know what ever happened to that. If there's a better way to go, I'm all for it.
If you find out what that was and if it's still on the market for hoodies let me know, I hate printing hoodies because I have to use that web tack spray, the glue just won't hold then in place well enough.
Back when they were newish, I tried them. They weren't a film, but rather thin sheet metal or rigid plastic. Had three for adult boards and three for youth. I seem to remember them working better on some pieces than others, and I quit using them. Jennings marketed them, but I think that I may have gotten them from the manufacturer. I'll dig them out and see what details I can ascertain.
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We tried one, but no one liked it very much and went back to the old way.
Steve
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we've been using this for 6 to 8 months. We have 2 of our 3 presses running it. We absolutely love it. It lasts much longer than traditional wb adhesive.
It can accept spray tack/web for fleece, and can be cleaned off.
We've also found that if you using something like Saati's IR26 with water, the solvents make the print grip EVEN tackier.
we do struggle with highly linty shirts like pigment dyed shirts, needing to be scrubbed more frequently.
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I tried the ones that Jennings had also years ago.. didn't like it. But could be different than 10-12 years ago.
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we've been using this for 6 to 8 months. We have 2 of our 3 presses running it. We absolutely love it. It lasts much longer than traditional wb adhesive.
It can accept spray tack/web for fleece, and can be cleaned off.
We've also found that if you using something like Saati's IR26 with water, the solvents make the print grip EVEN tackier.
we do struggle with highly linty shirts like pigment dyed shirts, needing to be scrubbed more frequently.
youve been using the printgrip material with spray tack?
in either case, how long does the printgrip last before you have to put a new set of printgrip back on?
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So keep in mind we only print HSA/WB/DC, and the way this was sold to me is that one of the big guys, paramount maybe did a 70kpc run for NIKE with HSA, and it last the entire time.
I don't know if we've done that many units, but we've been on the same set since Feb.
Our second press had it added in August.
Ive been really impressed with how long it lasts, and doesn't seem to have the same off gassing issues as watebased glue.
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What do you use to clean off the web tack for fleece?
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What do you use to clean off the web tack for fleece?
Yeah I would like to know to, because we are doing a lot of fleece right now and I hate using the web tack spray, the glue just want hold for more than a round or two before we to reglue so I just use the spray
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water and scrubbing pad or brush.
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So keep in mind we only print HSA/WB/DC, and the way this was sold to me is that one of the big guys, paramount maybe did a 70kpc run for NIKE with HSA, and it last the entire time.
I don't know if we've done that many units, but we've been on the same set since Feb.
Our second press had it added in August.
Ive been really impressed with how long it lasts, and doesn't seem to have the same off gassing issues as watebased glue.
Can I ask what pallet size you are on? I noticed the print grip sheets are very limited in size. In order to cover one pallet from front to back we would need one and a half sheets. It seems the print grip sheets are designed for standard M&R size pallets.
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So keep in mind we only print HSA/WB/DC, and the way this was sold to me is that one of the big guys, paramount maybe did a 70kpc run for NIKE with HSA, and it last the entire time.
I don't know if we've done that many units, but we've been on the same set since Feb.
Our second press had it added in August.
Ive been really impressed with how long it lasts, and doesn't seem to have the same off gassing issues as watebased glue.
Can I ask what pallet size you are on? I noticed the print grip sheets are very limited in size. In order to cover one pallet from front to back we would need one and a half sheets. It seems the print grip sheets are designed for standard M&R size pallets.
i believe we run them on16x24" pallets. there is about 2" of space on the top and bottom of the pallet. the reason we haven't swapped our third press, is because our third press runs a digital machine, and we want the pallet surface to be uniform. Print Grip won't make the sheets longer. we've asked.
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So keep in mind we only print HSA/WB/DC, and the way this was sold to me is that one of the big guys, paramount maybe did a 70kpc run for NIKE with HSA, and it last the entire time.
I don't know if we've done that many units, but we've been on the same set since Feb.
Our second press had it added in August.
Ive been really impressed with how long it lasts, and doesn't seem to have the same off gassing issues as watebased glue.
Can I ask what pallet size you are on? I noticed the print grip sheets are very limited in size. In order to cover one pallet from front to back we would need one and a half sheets. It seems the print grip sheets are designed for standard M&R size pallets.
i believe we run them on16x24" pallets. there is about 2" of space on the top and bottom of the pallet. the reason we haven't swapped our third press, is because our third press runs a digital machine, and we want the pallet surface to be uniform. Print Grip won't make the sheets longer. we've asked.
i see that they have three different levels of tack - "Medium White, High Tack Yellow, and Super High Tack Black" - which one did you find worked the best for you?
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We've only used the yellow, and works GREAT!
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The PrintGrip failed us on our 12C press. It was great for the first 2-3 days then we got less and less out of it, even with cleaning it and scrubbing it well. After 2 weeks we called it quits and plan on using spreadable water based / spray tack as needed (fleece).
I think it would be great in lower production shops / on manual presses but doesn't last long enough to justify itself. Maybe that Saati cleaner works better than what we were doing but it seemed like new after our cleanings but was only lasting about 400 shirts until needed the cleaning again. It started at lasting for 1000 shirts though.
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We've been using yellow for a couple of months and like it. We only use water and tile sponge to scrub clean. If it's completely lint-less it's too strong so we keep a small layer of lint on the platens. Our best method so far is ROQ iron and flashes if necessary to keep it tacky. We do hundreds of prints at time without scubbing.
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We've been using yellow for a couple of months and like it. We only use water and tile sponge to scrub clean. If it's completely lint-less it's too strong so we keep a small layer of lint on the platens. Our best method so far is ROQ iron and flashes if necessary to keep it tacky. We do hundreds of prints at time without scubbing.
How many prints a day? how many platens on the press?
We tried the yellow.
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14 stations. 1000-1500 daily prints of high-color count water based. Was using roll-on water-based tack for years and find this easier so far. I factored in annual replacements based on what I was read.
For the first few weeks we used baby powder in an old t-shirt (cornstarch is much cheaper btw) to de-tac the grip. Quicker to leave a little lint on.