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General => Manufacturer's section => Action Engineering => Topic started by: Action1 on November 18, 2014, 03:46:11 PM

Title: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Action1 on November 18, 2014, 03:46:11 PM
Now available by popular demand!

Roller Squeegees for use on all manual machinery.

10" Roller - $195 - includes a sheet of Teflon of dimensions 18" x 24"

Call 770-717-1000 and place your order today.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: sqslabs on November 18, 2014, 04:30:52 PM
This thing hurts my arms just looking at it.   :o
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Sbrem on November 18, 2014, 04:35:14 PM
Someone mentioned something like this only this morning here...

Steve
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Action1 on November 18, 2014, 04:41:18 PM
Someone mentioned something like this only this morning here...

Steve

Please elaborate. I just looked and didn't see it.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: bulldog on November 18, 2014, 06:10:08 PM
Interesting. Only 10" though? (Save the that's what she said jokes!)
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: mooseman on November 18, 2014, 08:00:22 PM
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Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: ScreenPrinter123 on November 18, 2014, 09:37:18 PM
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Hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Shanarchy on November 18, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
Interesting. Only 10" though? (Save the that's what she said jokes!)

I found that interesting too. Most manual printers use a 14" squeegee and do a lot of 12" wide prints.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Frog on November 18, 2014, 09:42:35 PM
Benefit of the doubt here: 10" and multiple passes because it's difficult to provide enough pressure if larger.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: islandtees on November 18, 2014, 10:06:56 PM
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Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: bulldog on November 19, 2014, 12:55:50 AM
Benefit of the doubt here: 10" and multiple passes because it's difficult to provide enough pressure if larger.

If you did multiple passes wouldn't it leave a line in your design from the edge of the roller? That's what I'm picturing anyway.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Evo on November 19, 2014, 03:19:24 AM
You could always just screw one of these onto an old squeegee handle...

http://www.rockler.com/roller-with-bracket (http://www.rockler.com/roller-with-bracket)
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: broadway on November 19, 2014, 07:02:57 AM
You could always just screw one of these onto an old squeegee handle...

[url]http://www.rockler.com/roller-with-bracket[/url] ([url]http://www.rockler.com/roller-with-bracket[/url])

I have never seen a roller squeegee in person. It looks like the roller is from an offset press. I am surprised no one has tried a DIY version yet.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Action1 on November 19, 2014, 07:31:35 AM



Purpose of The Manual Roller Squeegee

The Manual Roller Squeegee assists you in two key areas.

1 – for use as a smoothing utensil. It has been proven that the use of a roller squeegee greatly assists in achieving a very smooth opaque print. For the Manual Roller Squeegee, the roller length is limited to 10” to enable a higher pressure per square inch when pushing down. It is similar to dry stroking your print. However, because the roller squeegee will not task you with fighting the friction during your dry stroke – you are able to focus the energy of pushing down on the print to enable smoothing. It is Used with a Teflon coated screen immediately following the flash. The practice of multi - rolling the area will not show up on the print as rolling lines. The thick sheet of Teflon between the roller and the print will mitigate the roll lines.The improvements are more noticeable after a short learning curve.

2 – For use as a foiling tool. When foiling – we heat up the adhesive base and carefully place foil over the area. Accomplishing a confident bond and laminating the foil to the shirt can be cumbersome. Additionally – the hot surface can be uncomfortable. The manual roller squeegee enables the lamination of the foil without causing a drag against the fabric. It brings your hands above the heated surface. Used also with Teflon coated screen.

Regarding the Durability of the Roller Squeegee compared to any other hand held laminating device

The Roller Squeegee has proven itself extremely durable under use with high production automatic machinery. They’ve now been in production for two years and the failure rate has been basically zero. The design when used as a manual laminating tool is far superior to any other on the market. If you buy one for manual printing – it will last forever.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: mooseman on November 19, 2014, 08:36:52 AM

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/129841/Standard-J-Roller.aspx (http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/129841/Standard-J-Roller.aspx)

http://www.woodcraft.com/product/129842/Standard%20J%20Roller.aspx (http://www.woodcraft.com/product/129842/Standard%20J%20Roller.aspx)
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Action1 on November 19, 2014, 09:29:23 AM

[url]http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/129841/Standard-J-Roller.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/129841/Standard-J-Roller.aspx[/url])

[url]http://www.woodcraft.com/product/129842/Standard%20J%20Roller.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.woodcraft.com/product/129842/Standard%20J%20Roller.aspx[/url])


Seriously Moosman - this is not even in the same universe as what we have developed for you. Ours allows two hands - with extremely durable parts. I can give you a slice of tree trunk that will roll down hill. However - Good Year has improved that product greatly.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Denis Kolar on November 19, 2014, 01:39:40 PM

[url]http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/129841/Standard-J-Roller.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/129841/Standard-J-Roller.aspx[/url])

[url]http://www.woodcraft.com/product/129842/Standard%20J%20Roller.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.woodcraft.com/product/129842/Standard%20J%20Roller.aspx[/url])



Is that for the left chest only?  :)
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Gilligan on November 19, 2014, 02:00:11 PM
(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1328933811/Huayi-engineering-car-unidimensional-font-b-steamrollers-b-font-full-alloy-engineering-car-font-b-toy.jpg)
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Frog on November 19, 2014, 02:51:47 PM

[url]http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/129841/Standard-J-Roller.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/129841/Standard-J-Roller.aspx[/url])

[url]http://www.woodcraft.com/product/129842/Standard%20J%20Roller.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.woodcraft.com/product/129842/Standard%20J%20Roller.aspx[/url])



Is that for the left chest only?  :)


No, it works on the right as well
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: mimosatexas on November 19, 2014, 03:13:19 PM
(http://www.hairfinder.com/hairstyling/curlymid2.jpg)

Am I doing this right?
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: 3Deep on November 19, 2014, 03:29:21 PM
@ Action no doubt you guys built a nice product but goddan that price is high for what some people are willing to fork over, might be a tough sell when I see some of the other options posted here that will work, maybe not as great as you all's hanle and roller but get the job done...like they say on Shark Tank I'm out!!!!  good luck anyway

darryl
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Frog on November 19, 2014, 03:59:02 PM
Well, just about everyone who tried the roller on their auto liked it (except for a few DIY teflon folks who had adhesion problems with that part).

Now, let's see what the reports from manual users say.
One potential problem I see is that since most manual printers have their flash in a position that allows cooling before the next print, this would require a repositioning of the flash to a station just before the operator to assure the print is still toasty warm. Maybe not a problem for those with lots of space and an easily moved flash. Otherwise, it needs a second worker taking care of smoothing duties.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: bulldog on November 19, 2014, 04:33:28 PM
Well, just about everyone who tried the roller on their auto liked it (except for a few DIY teflon folks who had adhesion problems with that part).

Now, let's see what the reports from manual users say.
One potential problem I see is that since most manual printers have their flash in a position that allows cooling before the next print, this would require a repositioning of the flash to a station just before the operator to assure the print is still toasty warm. Maybe not a problem for those with lots of space and an easily moved flash. Otherwise, it needs a second worker taking care of smoothing duties.

I was thinking about this too. Or you'd have to flash and swing it back to you and then go two ahead. I'm still intrigued.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: mimosatexas on November 19, 2014, 04:35:18 PM
or just rotate your platens the other direction following the base, then switch back after.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: mooseman on November 19, 2014, 07:12:09 PM

OOPS......I posted this before I was done SORRY here is the cleaned up and finished version


we were actually working on this wacked out idea for our manual print work especially on fleece .
I will share it with everyone with the warning that the  MOOSEMAN MIND WANDERING alert is in effect.

We often hit our print work with a heat press to smooth and soften the print especially on fleece. It works great as you all know.

It hit me about a year ago that it would be the nuts to be able to hit the shirt with the heat press while the shirt was still on the print platten to smooth the underbase.
I have snagged a used press but hit a wall when I got the $$ to have my bracket fabricated, I do not have enough metal working equipment and I do not weld.
All that aside the ultimate solution (in my mooseed up mind) is to hit the shirt while still on the print press as needed to smooth and improve the base for top colors.
Toss the manual roller idea............ too much work and limited results (on a manual) anyway.

 I have discarded the idea of mounting the heat press from a floor bracket like a flash unit. the cleaner solution is to mount the heat press press platten in the print head much like a screen giving up a station to the heat press platten.
It will require a stronger lifter or possibly a upper bracket arm with a spring assist to handle the added weight of the heat platten.
If I ever finish this I will post pics .
mooseman
 
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Gilligan on November 19, 2014, 08:13:20 PM
The craziest part about that post Moosman is this bit right here:

Quote
and I do not weld.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: ericheartsu on November 19, 2014, 08:18:51 PM
sorry to hijack the thread but apparently M&R has something called an "i-kiss"...and it does exactly this
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Gilligan on November 19, 2014, 08:25:30 PM
sorry to hijack the thread but apparently M&R has something called an "i-kiss"...and it does exactly this

I thought that was Mimosa's idea earlier in the thread.
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: mooseman on November 19, 2014, 08:31:06 PM
sorry to hijack the thread but apparently M&R has something called an "i-kiss"...and it does exactly this

ericheartsu
Can you throw me a link, I looked on M&R and could find pieces / parts but I could not find the actual equipment.
I would love to see it whole and possibly steal I mean borrow something from the masters.
mooseman
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: ericheartsu on November 19, 2014, 08:55:38 PM
this is all i've been able to find:
http://www.mrprint.com/uploaded/pdf/i-Kiss_Automatic_Heat-Assisted_Substrate_Press_EN_20141013.pdf (http://www.mrprint.com/uploaded/pdf/i-Kiss_Automatic_Heat-Assisted_Substrate_Press_EN_20141013.pdf)
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: mooseman on November 19, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
this is all i've been able to find:
[url]http://www.mrprint.com/uploaded/pdf/i-Kiss_Automatic_Heat-Assisted_Substrate_Press_EN_20141013.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.mrprint.com/uploaded/pdf/i-Kiss_Automatic_Heat-Assisted_Substrate_Press_EN_20141013.pdf[/url])



THANK YOU ericheartsu .................that helps a bunch
mooseman
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Binkspot on November 19, 2014, 09:07:17 PM
Hotronics Air Fusion will do exactly what you are looking for. Just remove the pallet, foot pedal or prox switch and your in business.

Thought about it myself for the auto, hang a heat press from a set of air cylinders to press the garment on press.

Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: Gilligan on November 19, 2014, 09:08:53 PM
Hmm... load from unload station and use a step back program and done!
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: mooseman on November 19, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
Hotronics Air Fusion will do exactly what you are looking for. Just remove the pallet, foot pedal or prox switch and your in business.

Thought about it myself for the auto, hang a heat press from a set of air cylinders to press the garment on press.

Nice but if I ever get off my a$$ I can build one for my manual for 1/5th of $3800.00
mooseman
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: GaryG on November 19, 2014, 10:30:09 PM
Manufacturers just love us tinkerers  >:(  :'(  :)
And screen printers are the most fanciful tinkerers in the universe!
Title: Re: Manual Roller Squeegee
Post by: tonypep on November 20, 2014, 06:31:25 AM
The I-Kiss appears to be the unit they developed for inline foil (or slightly modified) One would imagine that floor support to the platens would minimize deflection.