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General Screen Printing / Re: White Ink opacity issues
« Last post by Atownsend on May 15, 2024, 05:09:58 PM »
I haven't used the ELT before... but i'd question the ink if all other variables check out. With thin thread and a top white that should be bright unless its bleeding fo some weird reason. Did dryer settings recently change? New batch of ink?

Also... unless it has halftones i'd ditch the 150/48 thin thread and rock 135/55 for the base screen. Slightly thicker thread but with better open area since there are fewer and can take higher tensions and more abuse 150's are fragile for us... Joe Clarke (RIP) turned me on to that years ago and its been game on ever since. Clears white ink so easy with light pressure.
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General Discussion and ??? / Re: Unusable Art
« Last post by GraphicDisorder on May 15, 2024, 12:22:07 PM »
D,
somebody here said it long time ago and it's been my gospel ever since. If you are not happy to take that small order, you are not charging enough. Every order should bring a smile to your face! So... raise the prices, lose some customers and laugh all the way to the bank. There is plenty of fish in the sea, you will find more customers! And don't worry about the guy next door doing it for less, he is about to go out of business. Plenty of them have, just look at the abundance of equipment for sale.

pj


I agree with that in general, but just remember you can go out of business probably just as easy or maybe even easier being over priced.

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General Discussion and ??? / Re: Unusable Art
« Last post by blue moon on May 15, 2024, 11:20:48 AM »
D,
somebody here said it long time ago and it's been my gospel ever since. If you are not happy to take that small order, you are not charging enough. Every order should bring a smile to your face! So... raise the prices, lose some customers and laugh all the way to the bank. There is plenty of fish in the sea, you will find more customers! And don't worry about the guy next door doing it for less, he is about to go out of business. Plenty of them have, just look at the abundance of equipment for sale.

pj

Depending on how large the order is you might be able to build the redraw cost into the shirt price.  That way you could just skip the part where you debate with them about redrawing it.  We use Ignition Drawing for vectorizing, their cheapest fee is $16..

There are vendors that charge $10 or less and have the files back to me in 12 hours. I suck up the fee as my time is way more valuable than 5 emails back and forth plus the frustration created with client

How much can you suck up on 24 36 to 48 pc orders, like I said big or no problem it's the small ones
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General Screen Printing / Re: White Ink opacity issues
« Last post by balloonguy on May 15, 2024, 10:22:48 AM »
I print a good amount of these. I use house blend of 40% clear and 60% smooth white through 156 on the base (double stroke) then top white is all smooth white through a 156, 135 or 110 depending on art. I find the based down base coat makes it easier for me to get a nice smooth base with less pressure. The top coat sits nicely on top of the thin base.
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General Screen Printing / Re: White Ink opacity issues
« Last post by 3Deep on May 15, 2024, 09:33:05 AM »
I bought one of those double blade squeegee's and found it works really well on 135 140 150 s mesh with the ELT white then a 160 regular mesh for a highlight, sometimes a little thicker print than I want but the white is good....plus all shirts just don't print the same for some crazy reason.
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General Screen Printing / Re: White Ink opacity issues
« Last post by mk162 on May 15, 2024, 09:14:01 AM »
We are running right at 10% EOM, I might bump it a touch and maybe add a second pass on the squeegee side.
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General Screen Printing / Re: White Ink opacity issues
« Last post by mk162 on May 14, 2024, 08:51:10 PM »
EOM? Get them stencil walls thickened up maybe?

I'll check them.  I didn't think of that for some dumb reason.
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General Screen Printing / Re: White Ink opacity issues
« Last post by Evo on May 14, 2024, 08:38:47 PM »
EOM? Get them stencil walls thickened up maybe?
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General Screen Printing / White Ink opacity issues
« Last post by mk162 on May 14, 2024, 08:26:16 PM »
Man do I feel like a rookie posting this, but recently we are having a dickens of a time getting a good white print on blends like the 6210 or tri-blends.

We are running OneStroke ELT through a 150s mesh with a 155 or 180s highlight, with a smash/flattening screen after the flash.  Still, they look weak.

We are running our pressure around 20-25psi. We've stood the squeegee up to almost 0 degrees and run it down as far as 15 degrees.  We changed squeegee speeds, checked off contact, flash times, cure times, tried a myriad of white inks, etc. Our tensions are great. We've tried swapping squeegees, different durometers, new blades, etc. We just can get anything that looks great.

It's pissing me off because we used to excel with our whites and we can't get back to it.  I should be able to figure it out.
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General Discussion and ??? / Re: Unusable Art
« Last post by 3Deep on May 13, 2024, 03:41:50 PM »
Depending on how large the order is you might be able to build the redraw cost into the shirt price.  That way you could just skip the part where you debate with them about redrawing it.  We use Ignition Drawing for vectorizing, their cheapest fee is $16..

There are vendors that charge $10 or less and have the files back to me in 12 hours. I suck up the fee as my time is way more valuable than 5 emails back and forth plus the frustration created with client

How much can you suck up on 24 36 to 48 pc orders, like I said big or no problem it's the small ones
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