TSB
General => Industry shows => Topic started by: GoWestRob on September 29, 2021, 12:18:35 PM
-
Hey guys,
What is your hunch about the Long Beach show for 2022? Will it happen as usual, as usual but scaled back, cancelled again, what does your all-knowing third eye see?
-
With on going supply chain issues and that ever thing landing is being pre sold over retail for the foreseeable future ( I guess another 12-16 months ) the ROI for a booth does not make sense. The Toyota dealer around the corner has ZERO new cars and maybe 20-30 used on the entire lot. They asked me if I would sell my truck when i took it in for service last week. I hear Tacomas going for 7-9 k over msrp if you can find one.
-
I hear ya Farmer, I know of two smaller suppliers that are ditching their booth for 2022 for that reason. If you are instantly selling everything that you can get in some might think there is need to have a booth to promote the brand. Also if the show will be having reduced attendance. The whole show in Fort Worth looked about as big as the back end of the long beach show.
One of our guys stopped by a car dealership today, apparently Suburbans are on a 4-year waiting list.
-
Not looking good for Impressions Show. M&R pulled out. San Mar and S&S pulled out of PPAI, I assume that means they will pull out of ISS as well. Have any of you changed your plans for attending this year?
-
I am afraid that the glory days of trade shows/mags in our industry as well as others may have passed. Perhaps 20 ys ago I remember that M&R had an ISS LB presence that needed its own zip code! Rich had often privately commented to me on how much the cost of doing up to thirteen shows a year costed and how those costs had to be figured into their own sales. This was pre-internet (mostly) and before so much information and videos were just a click away. There was another equip mfg. owner who once said to me that he would rather fly/accommodate five prospective buyers to his facility and make one sale than exhibit at a trade show. Different strokes there to be sure.
In short, as the rags have gone in a different direction as and shows most likely will diminish, this may perhaps beg a question.........What about seminars and hands on workshops? Where will they go without the support of the equipment and chemical suppliers whom, in the past and uncertain future have financially made these very important demonstrations possible? Greg Kitson may know. I have never had any contact with him in recent memory however I applaud him for opening up his own facility for training for others. It is the opposite model of the Selectasine company that truly pioneered this industry. Albeit with a sly bit of secrecy and cleverance in their day.
-
I literally don't see the point of these trade shows. I suspect they will get smaller and disappear.
-
Biggest reason for some use to go to trade shows now a days is to hang out with each other or treat it like a mini vacation, most of us have all the equipment we need or just looking at what's new.
-
Biggest reason for some use to go to trade shows now a days is to hang out with each other or treat it like a mini vacation, most of us have all the equipment we need or just looking at what's new.
I'd say that is us 75% of the time! Just shoot the breeze and get out of this MN winter for a few days! This time we actually were going to take a "final look" at a few things. So I will be bummed if it is canceled.
I talked to 2 companies today that basically said with M&R being out and there are whispers of SPSI ducking out, that if Roq pulls out then it will be canceled. That was their assumption. It's interesting because I've also talked with a few of our reps that are based around or near Los Angles, and they DO NOT want to work the booths. Makes sense, you work hard to stay healthy and then go to a large event like this...
All that being said, my guess is if it does get canceled there will still be a small splinter group of people like us here, that will still go just to get out and see some warm weather and hopefully bump into a few other printers. Tickets and rooms are already bought, why the hell not!?
-
Biggest reason for some use to go to trade shows now a days is to hang out with each other or treat it like a mini vacation, most of us have all the equipment we need or just looking at what's new.
I'd say that is us 75% of the time! Just shoot the breeze and get out of this MN winter for a few days! This time we actually were going to take a "final look" at a few things. So I will be bummed if it is canceled.
I talked to 2 companies today that basically said with M&R being out and there are whispers of SPSI ducking out, that if Roq pulls out then it will be canceled. That was their assumption. It's interesting because I've also talked with a few of our reps that are based around or near Los Angles, and they DO NOT want to work the booths. Makes sense, you work hard to stay healthy and then go to a large event like this...
All that being said, my guess is if it does get canceled there will still be a small splinter group of people like us here, that will still go just to get out and see some warm weather and hopefully bump into a few other printers. Tickets and rooms are already bought, why the hell not!?
what are you looking at? what are you gonna buy? see you there?
-
I wish I could say I was going. Winters in Iowa suck too
-
Biggest reason for some use to go to trade shows now a days is to hang out with each other or treat it like a mini vacation, most of us have all the equipment we need or just looking at what's new.
I'd say that is us 75% of the time! Just shoot the breeze and get out of this MN winter for a few days! This time we actually were going to take a "final look" at a few things. So I will be bummed if it is canceled.
I talked to 2 companies today that basically said with M&R being out and there are whispers of SPSI ducking out, that if Roq pulls out then it will be canceled. That was their assumption. It's interesting because I've also talked with a few of our reps that are based around or near Los Angles, and they DO NOT want to work the booths. Makes sense, you work hard to stay healthy and then go to a large event like this...
All that being said, my guess is if it does get canceled there will still be a small splinter group of people like us here, that will still go just to get out and see some warm weather and hopefully bump into a few other printers. Tickets and rooms are already bought, why the hell not!?
what are you looking at? what are you gonna buy? see you there?
That ink dispenser from Matsui, really need to look closer at the "higher end" features on some of the newer Roq machines to see if they are really something we would use. Also want to check out how the FIT is built, would love a machine for strictly sleeves and a decent tag machine. I also need to bust Mammoser's balls about the "power washer in a box" he was supposed to make for me months ago!!!!
See you there? No Eric, you will not. My large LOUD self will hide from you around every corner, just waiting to jump out and scare the vegetarian out of you.... But you know me, I'm a sucker for friends and hanging out so yes, see you there!
Dave, remember a few months ago when we came down to Iowa, then drove to a friends house that had minimum maintenance roads? It was a good time, but I can honestly say winters are not the only thing that sucks in Iowa.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
-
Biggest reason for some use to go to trade shows now a days is to hang out with each other or treat it like a mini vacation, most of us have all the equipment we need or just looking at what's new.
I'd say that is us 75% of the time! Just shoot the breeze and get out of this MN winter for a few days! This time we actually were going to take a "final look" at a few things. So I will be bummed if it is canceled.
I talked to 2 companies today that basically said with M&R being out and there are whispers of SPSI ducking out, that if Roq pulls out then it will be canceled. That was their assumption. It's interesting because I've also talked with a few of our reps that are based around or near Los Angles, and they DO NOT want to work the booths. Makes sense, you work hard to stay healthy and then go to a large event like this...
All that being said, my guess is if it does get canceled there will still be a small splinter group of people like us here, that will still go just to get out and see some warm weather and hopefully bump into a few other printers. Tickets and rooms are already bought, why the hell not!?
what are you looking at? what are you gonna buy? see you there?
That ink dispenser from Matsui, really need to look closer at the "higher end" features on some of the newer Roq machines to see if they are really something we would use. Also want to check out how the FIT is built, would love a machine for strictly sleeves and a decent tag machine. I also need to bust Mammoser's balls about the "power washer in a box" he was supposed to make for me months ago!!!!
See you there? No Eric, you will not. My large LOUD self will hide from you around every corner, just waiting to jump out and scare the vegetarian out of you.... But you know me, I'm a sucker for friends and hanging out so yes, see you there!
Dave, remember a few months ago when we came down to Iowa, then drove to a friends house that had minimum maintenance roads? It was a good time, but I can honestly say winters are not the only thing that sucks in Iowa.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i can't wait to go to monty's in LA with you.
Also, those matsui mixers are made by corob. We've been on the list to get one for like 3 years...
-
Biggest reason for some use to go to trade shows now a days is to hang out with each other or treat it like a mini vacation, most of us have all the equipment we need or just looking at what's new.
I'd say that is us 75% of the time! Just shoot the breeze and get out of this MN winter for a few days! This time we actually were going to take a "final look" at a few things. So I will be bummed if it is canceled.
I talked to 2 companies today that basically said with M&R being out and there are whispers of SPSI ducking out, that if Roq pulls out then it will be canceled. That was their assumption. It's interesting because I've also talked with a few of our reps that are based around or near Los Angles, and they DO NOT want to work the booths. Makes sense, you work hard to stay healthy and then go to a large event like this...
All that being said, my guess is if it does get canceled there will still be a small splinter group of people like us here, that will still go just to get out and see some warm weather and hopefully bump into a few other printers. Tickets and rooms are already bought, why the hell not!?
what are you looking at? what are you gonna buy? see you there?
That ink dispenser from Matsui, really need to look closer at the "higher end" features on some of the newer Roq machines to see if they are really something we would use. Also want to check out how the FIT is built, would love a machine for strictly sleeves and a decent tag machine. I also need to bust Mammoser's balls about the "power washer in a box" he was supposed to make for me months ago!!!!
See you there? No Eric, you will not. My large LOUD self will hide from you around every corner, just waiting to jump out and scare the vegetarian out of you.... But you know me, I'm a sucker for friends and hanging out so yes, see you there!
Dave, remember a few months ago when we came down to Iowa, then drove to a friends house that had minimum maintenance roads? It was a good time, but I can honestly say winters are not the only thing that sucks in Iowa.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i can't wait to go to monty's in LA with you.
Also, those matsui mixers are made by corob. We've been on the list to get one for like 3 years...
The COROB dispensers are awesome. We have placed dozens across the US and Central America with Magna Inks and the Magna Mix software. Works like a charm.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
-
i can't wait to go to monty's in LA with you.
Also, those matsui mixers are made by corob. We've been on the list to get one for like 3 years...
Whoa slow your roll there, if it outside the 5 mile radius around the convention center in Long Beach there we are out of my comfort zone and probably WAY too adventurous for me! Lucky for you they have a Brazilian steak house in the radius! ;D
-
We are not going unfortunately. I want to as I think it's a good time and you can always discover new methods and things to sell at the smaller booths.
They got rid of direct flights from PDX to Long Beach, so more logistics, M&R pulling out, and we already have a Cobra on order.
I would love to have one of those automated ink mixers, but if the formulas to match a pantone don't work, what's the point really? Why can't they just make formulas that actually match the pantone, like pay a couple color specialist for a year to make the 1,867 solid coated pantone colors and to actually match the pantone. Maybe 3 formulas, on a base, no base, and discharge.
-
ASI is in Orlando now. I decided not to go... I am curious if anyone on here went? How is/was it? I wonder if that can be an indicator for the rest of the year...
-
I backed out a couple of days ago. Main thing I wanted to see was DTF printers. Too many back outs / questionable what will happen in the 2 weeks leading up to it to make it worthwhile enough. May try ISS Atlantic City if all the exhibitors are attending that.
-
Over the years I have enjoyed the shows. Mainly Long Beach. I’ve learned a lot at the seminars and kept up to date with equipment and everything else we use.
Met a lot of amazing people, enjoy the Smokehouse etc.
Won’t be coming this year but hopefully next year we’ll be getting back to normal and LB will be the great show it’s always been.
-
We are not going unfortunately. I want to as I think it's a good time and you can always discover new methods and things to sell at the smaller booths.
They got rid of direct flights from PDX to Long Beach, so more logistics, M&R pulling out, and we already have a Cobra on order.
I would love to have one of those automated ink mixers, but if the formulas to match a pantone don't work, what's the point really? Why can't they just make formulas that actually match the pantone, like pay a couple color specialist for a year to make the 1,867 solid coated pantone colors and to actually match the pantone. Maybe 3 formulas, on a base, no base, and discharge.
Are you referring to plastisol or waterbase or maybe both. We find it more and more difficult to get an accurate Pantone match using Avients mixing software. We never had issues until a year ago. Some of them are off by miles.
-
Did ANYBODY go? How was it?
-
We went. Alex from TCT went too.
It was small, but fun. lots and lots and lots of DTF.
Roq was pretty much the only one showing equipment.
-
Hey Eric, how was COOLIO?
-
Hey Eric, how was COOLIO?
he stood 3 ft away from me, while i was going over some stuff with Roq, but otherwise, i wanted nothing to do with that party. Went to see friends and clients in LA.
-
We went. Alex from TCT went too.
It was small, but fun. lots and lots and lots of DTF.
Roq was pretty much the only one showing equipment.
Eric, see any DTF's that looked interesting? You guys screen print your own if I'm not mistaken?