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Title: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: mimosatexas on July 10, 2016, 02:56:27 PM
Are there any "little" gas conveyor dryers that run off 110v? It seems like most 10' by 36" belt dryers (or close to that size) that are pure electric and not gas run around 50 to 60 amps on 220, while massive gas dryers run off much less electrical but augment that with gas usage. For shops that are limited when it comes to both space and electrical availability, are there any options out there that use gas? Seems like when you start using gas the dryers seem to get much bigger.
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: Nation03 on July 10, 2016, 03:08:34 PM
I think Lawson has a small gas dryer. I don't know too much about it, or any of their equipment for that matter.
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: 244 on July 10, 2016, 07:13:52 PM
Are there any "little" gas conveyor dryers that run off 110v? It seems like most 10' by 36" belt dryers (or close to that size) run around 50 to 60 amps on 220, while massive gas dryers run off much less electrical but augment that with gas usage. For shops that are limited when it comes to both space and electrical availability, are there any options out there that use gas? Seems like when you start using gas the dryers seem to get much bigger.
a little more research is needed. I don't know of any gas fired dryer with a 38 inch belt from any manufacturer that pulls amps like that. Ours for instance pulls about 15 amps on 220 single phase. That should be about the average for a gas dryer of this size. 10 amps on 3 phase
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: mimosatexas on July 10, 2016, 07:25:46 PM
That was in reference to electric only dryers, not gas. I should have made that clearer. What models of gas dryer are out there that fit that form factor though (8 to 10 feet long with 36 to 48 inch belt)?
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: 244 on July 10, 2016, 08:03:26 PM
That was in reference to electric only dryers, not gas. I should have made that clearer. What models of gas dryer are out there that fit that form factor though (8 to 10 feet long with 36 to 48 inch belt)?
We made a dryer called the Heatwave that was 110 volt as well as one called Boomerang. Currently our smallest is the Mini- Sprint that is gas and 220 single phased
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: mimosatexas on July 10, 2016, 08:06:16 PM
What is the smallest size of the mini sprint? Aren't those still pretty large?
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on July 10, 2016, 08:31:49 PM
I think this is the smallest one out now.
http://www.tshirtprintersupply.com/shop/HG-3612.html (http://www.tshirtprintersupply.com/shop/HG-3612.html)
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: 244 on July 10, 2016, 09:42:33 PM
What is the smallest size of the mini sprint? Aren't those still pretty large?
38" wide belt and 8' of heat
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: TCT on July 10, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
You may want to check again mimosa, amperage like that on a gas dryer sounds crazy. We had a 38" belt red gas dryer that was 15A 220 single phase.

Even the 60" one we run now that has IR bumps is only 220 30A

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Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: numbercruncher on July 11, 2016, 08:15:06 AM
The new and improved Anatol Vulcan gas dryer is available with a 36"belt and 6' of heat - also available with 8.5' of heat
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: numbercruncher on July 11, 2016, 08:25:05 AM
Meant to add that the electrical specs for the Anatol Vulcan Dryer are single phase 15 amps, three phase 12 amps, burner is 280,000 btu -  let me know if there are other questions
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Post by: sqslabs on July 11, 2016, 08:39:46 AM
We had the Heatwave prior to our current dryer and were pretty happy with it.  110v, small footprint, cured WB/discharge no problem and kept up with our Javelin.
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: Frog on July 11, 2016, 11:20:23 AM
What is the smallest size of the mini sprint? Aren't those still pretty large?
38" wide belt and 8' of heat

Overall length, 12', right?
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: mimosatexas on July 11, 2016, 11:26:18 AM
All great info. I'm going to look into this more seriously for my shop. I'm getting pretty sick of being so limited due to the electrical and need a new dryer anyway as my ancient National is pretty close to death.

Are there any random issues I need to think a out when switching from electric to gas? Different venting, proximity to walls or Bay doors, etc? Just want to make sure I don't overlook anything.
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Post by: cleveprint on July 11, 2016, 12:23:26 PM
we switched in the winter of '15. we put in a 48" sprint. its more dryer than we need, but we could afford it and its nice having more space than needed on the belt. the only real expense that came out more than we planned on was the new vent. calling a roofer to cut the hole, then a tinner to do the vent, then the roofer to re-seal the roof. it wasn't an unexpected cost, but it worked out to more than we planned. but at that point, the dryer was there and i guess we had no choice!!
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: 244 on July 11, 2016, 12:27:32 PM
All great info. I'm going to look into this more seriously for my shop. I'm getting pretty sick of being so limited due to the electrical and need a new dryer anyway as my ancient National is pretty close to death.

Are there any random issues I need to think a out when switching from electric to gas? Different venting, proximity to walls or Bay doors, etc? Just want to make sure I don't overlook anything.
The biggest problems we see when smaller shops go gas is two or three. First and foremost they are vented wrong. I have seen more 90 degree elbows and flexible exhaust than I care to speak of. The second issue we see is wrong gas pressure or pipe to the dryer. The third is lack of proper maintenance. Dirty blowers and lack of proper grease for bearing shafts are the most common.
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: cbjamel on July 11, 2016, 12:33:58 PM
Frog, I have a mini,Love it cost 100 monthly in gas to run in Colorado. I have 4' in/out and 8' heat, so 16' total The problem with shorter outfeed  is harder for shirt to cool down before going in box. in feed side I wouldn't want shorter i can lay a shirt down no problem no baby sitting.
Shane
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: mimosatexas on July 11, 2016, 01:21:39 PM
I assume there is literature related to all of that, right Rich?I'm seriously considering the switch as I think it will pay for itself pretty quickly and free up a much needed 220 circuit.
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: 244 on July 11, 2016, 01:46:34 PM
I assume there is literature related to all of that, right Rich?I'm seriously considering the switch as I think it will pay for itself pretty quickly and free up a much needed 220 circuit.
Its all on our web site. There are two versions. Mini-Sprint 2000 and 38" Sprint 3000
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: mimosatexas on July 11, 2016, 02:07:32 PM
I've got a lead on 2 Heatwaves, a Boomerang, and an eliminator (I read about them being gas hogs etc and it is likely too big).  All used.  Would the guidelines related to the sprints apply to those, and if not how would I find out about those?
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: 244 on July 11, 2016, 03:27:10 PM
I've got a lead on 2 Heatwaves, a Boomerang, and an eliminator (I read about them being gas hogs etc and it is likely too big).  All used.  Would the guidelines related to the sprints apply to those, and if not how would I find out about those?
Do NOT buy the Eliminator. Way too much energy and maintenance.
Title: Re: "Little" Gas Conveyor Dryer?
Post by: Inkworks on July 11, 2016, 10:00:07 PM
We bought a used Heatwave, it was a little fussy at first getting the gas pressures correct for it, but now it runs like a champ, we love it.