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Computers and Software => Computers and Software - General => Topic started by: thinkdesign on July 21, 2011, 11:11:48 AM
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For those that use mac's are or have you upgraded to lion? If so have you run into any problems.
I want to upgrade but just checked roaringapps.com and saw someone reported that there is a problem with ill cs5. I will have to look into that before I go any farther. Also need to check my epson drivers for the 1400. Thought this might be a good thread to start to share any issues with lion.
Joel
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I have Snow Leopard and I just started having issues with the printers at work. It will pause all the printers when the file is sent to them.
I have not heard anything about Lion.
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Wow. I thought that the main selling point of Mac is super compatibility.
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Wow. I thought that the main selling point of Mac is super compatibility.
No, it's stability and UI simplicity. And/or, it can be argued, "cool" factor.
Having worked for a small software company before, I've seen this a lot. Every time Mac and Windows upgrades their OS, there are problems for software developers, who have to scramble to fix compatibility bugs BEFORE public release of the new OS. In turn, third-party developers then have scramble to to upgrade THEIR products to be compatible with the updated software AND the new OS.
The take-away here is DON'T rush out and upgrade to the newest OS right away, if you are running a business dependent on it. Give it some time to let the bugs get worked out at the 2nd and 3rd party software developer level.
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This is the exact reason I just ditched FireFox. What a crappy program that has become. Chrome is sleeker and much, much faster. Almost all of my bottlenecks are gone now.
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The take-away here is DON'T rush out and upgrade to the newest OS right away, if you are running a business dependent on it. Give it some time to let the bugs get worked out at the software developer level.
I couldn't agree more. The OS just runs apps, which are what you really need to get your job done. From what I saw Lion just looks like a slightly "iphone" themed version of snow leopard. Big deal. There's a few handy additions in there but nothing that isn't already just as functional under Leopard. This looks like a mild refinement at best.
That said, if you plan on purchasing a new mac this year, get ready to deal with lion whether you like it or not I guess.
And Frog, I think Macs may have actually eclipsed Windows-based machines in terms of compatibility. We have a wireless printer at the store and it hooked up just fine to all the macs, first try, but our windows 7 point of sale...no dice after hours of troubleshooting. Hell hath indeed frozen over. It's always been just the other way around.
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The most issues I have with any of my computers are caused by Explorer, and the whole frigging Windows runs on it.
I had it when I tried to upgrade from Vista to Windows 7. Upgrade disc came with another disc that had "Help" software on it.
Ironically, I could not instal "the Help" software on my PC because it would not run past a certain point.
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I like W7 so far. Most of my problems are caused by Firefox, it becomes such a resource hog and even with 12G of RAM, it would slow my system down to a crawl.
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I was all PC up until 2 years ago. Once I got over the initial fear of the MAC I have no interest in going back to a PC. I have a PC at the ink station and thats it. I got a new Imac at the beginning of the year and it is so stable I dont have any interest in upgrading to Lion.
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I've been running Macs since 6.0.3, and I usually like to wait for the new OS's to shake out the bugs, so to speak. I really like the $30.00 price tag. I'm running Leopard currently... I'm going to wait a bit.
Steve
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I bought Snow Leopard today at Best Buy. I had to ask at the counter for it and the guy said they're shipping all the copies back to Apple now that Lion is out. You've gotta have Snow Leopard installed to migrate to Lion since (for now) Lion is a download only . . . no CD. Downside of getting a new OS is if you fiddle around with any of the iLife programs like GarageBand, you'll have to buy that separately now if I'm not mistaken. It's included with new computers but not with OS upgrades. This happened to me once before on my old G5.
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Yeah, you get the iLife package free with a new computer, but if you want upgrades, to have purchase them, if you think you really need them anyway.
Steve
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Kind of hijacking this but how's that iCloud looking to everyone as a potential cloud server for business?
I ask because what I'm seeing from the direction Lion is taking is Apple leveling out OSX with whatever os it is (iOS maybe?) that runs on the ipad/phones (we have android phones here so I'm clueless on that). Note the auto-save feature in Lion as well as the feature that recalls your workspace, etc., they're integrating Time Machine functionality into a cloud-friendly process it appears. If the iCloud works out as business grade stuff, - isn't just for yuppies to store music and photos on - and doesn't cost an arm and a leg, I'll probably pull everything over to apple gear so we can fully implement the features. I'm actually stoked to see this going down with someone. I'd rather not be tied to apple for everything but at least they're trying to take advantage of the tech we have available in a productive manner. And at least, if apple builds a system like this it will actually work presumably.
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I upgraded to Lion the first day. It's been good. Some weird UI changes but you get use to them. I like some of the new features a lot.
CS 5.5 work fine. PS and Illustrator. My only issues have been printing to a windows print spool. Also when i switch to Evernote using the command + tab keyboard shortcut it doesn't bring evernote to the front.
Other than that, no complaints from me.
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Kind of hijacking this but how's that iCloud looking to everyone as a potential cloud server for business?
I ask because what I'm seeing from the direction Lion is taking is Apple leveling out OSX with whatever os it is (iOS maybe?) that runs on the ipad/phones (we have android phones here so I'm clueless on that). Note the auto-save feature in Lion as well as the feature that recalls your workspace, etc., they're integrating Time Machine functionality into a cloud-friendly process it appears. If the iCloud works out as business grade stuff, - isn't just for yuppies to store music and photos on - and doesn't cost an arm and a leg, I'll probably pull everything over to apple gear so we can fully implement the features. I'm actually stoked to see this going down with someone. I'd rather not be tied to apple for everything but at least they're trying to take advantage of the tech we have available in a productive manner. And at least, if apple builds a system like this it will actually work presumably.
We use cloud based stuff for almost everything. Our phone is google voice / skype costs us $3 a month. No real phone in the shop. It's nice because it will ring all our cel phones when someone does call.
We use google apps for business for shared calendars (press dates, due dates, days off etc) this is also available on our cel phones.
Google sites for a wiki that we use for like a screen printing knowledge base. We can search issues, notes on underbases etc.
We use evernote to keep track of customer notes from phone calls etc. The nice thing unlike say a txt document is you don't have to save it, and it's searchable. Also available on our iphones.
As i said in another post we use dropbox.com to share our client folder, we use backblaze.com to back up our computers.
Our price list is a google doc excel sheet.
We're moving more and more services to the cloud every day. You just need to be smart about what services you choose and what you are going to use them for. Make sure they are cross platform and play well with your iphone/android.
I'd really like to get a web based fastmanager. Also a web based quickbooks. Although the web based version of quick books sucks, is expensive and only works with IE on PCs. ugh.
So my though on iCloud.. a day late and a dollar short. We're already up in the cloud!
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The iCloud service part of OS X lion is not coming out until this fall. It looks to be part free and part paid.
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I'd really like to get a web based fastmanager. Also a web based quickbooks. Although the web based version of quick books sucks, is expensive and only works with IE on PCs. ugh.
We use Saasu, web-based accounting. I looked at the web-based QB. It looked like poo and had some horrific and terrifying feedback from users so I went with this one. It's very "open-ended" in that it can be or can't be just about whatever you want it to. And it's $25 a month. They have an iphone app but not an android one yet, but it does work just fine in any browser. It is not as powerful or convenient in the reporting or client/job tracking department as QB. Once there's more api coder type people around here I'm going to have someone really juice it up for us though.
I'm wondering if, with the use of API or something similar, we're getting close enough to having programs like this integrate more easily into a "cloud platform", which is what I want ultimately. A singular interface, accessible from multiple devices that organizes and integrates all the various functions you need even though the individual app's are their own creation. I don't know enough about all this to say if we have a standardized language to achieve this or not.
It's the only major beef I have with web-based apps- they don't integrate too well. If, for example, when I entered a due date in Saasu for a job activity that due date popped right up on google calendar I'd be a real happy camper. If Apple pulls something like that out of their hat, I'll pay up for it but it doesn't look like we're quite there yet.
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Wow. I thought that the main selling point of Mac is super compatibility.
It's always been about stability. I'm a MAC trapped in the body of a PC user.
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I'd really like to get a web based fastmanager. Also a web based quickbooks. Although the web based version of quick books sucks, is expensive and only works with IE on PCs. ugh.
We use Saasu, web-based accounting. I looked at the web-based QB. It looked like poo and had some horrific and terrifying feedback from users so I went with this one. It's very "open-ended" in that it can be or can't be just about whatever you want it to. And it's $25 a month. They have an iphone app but not an android one yet, but it does work just fine in any browser. It is not as powerful or convenient in the reporting or client/job tracking department as QB. Once there's more api coder type people around here I'm going to have someone really juice it up for us though.
I'm wondering if, with the use of API or something similar, we're getting close enough to having programs like this integrate more easily into a "cloud platform", which is what I want ultimately. A singular interface, accessible from multiple devices that organizes and integrates all the various functions you need even though the individual app's are their own creation. I don't know enough about all this to say if we have a standardized language to achieve this or not.
It's the only major beef I have with web-based apps- they don't integrate too well. If, for example, when I entered a due date in Saasu for a job activity that due date popped right up on google calendar I'd be a real happy camper. If Apple pulls something like that out of their hat, I'll pay up for it but it doesn't look like we're quite there yet.
If your looking for someone to work with the API for Saasu check out rentacoder.com or elance.com. I've hired some people to do stuff i just don't have time for at my regular job and some small coding projects for inkbrigade and it's been awesome.
As for the singular interface.. that's gonna be tough. I think most web apps if people are smart would be built with mysql on the back end, php, html5 and ajax on the front end. That doesn't really solve making everything work together though. But you can pull data from mysql into excel or filemaker or something if you need to. Php, ajax and html 5 would let you access it all on any device.
I want a shop management program my staff can access from the press on their smart phones. Instead of walking all the way over to the office just to check on something. Such a waste of time.
It's gonna be awhile.. especially since screen printing is so small. But it will happen. I'm pretty happy with how google apps integrates and the software addons from 3rd party developers that are available in the google marketplace.
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My computer is a tool. A very important one,,,, I need to be efficient with it and spend so much time exicuting things that change does not sit well with me...
I still don't like the new tab-able windows in Adobe, they get in my way. thank god you can still set them to the old school way...
I still prefer the simple non OSX mac platform or Steve Wozniack! Brilliant, simple, beautiful, functional.
I have an Iphone, I don't want my mac to have that interface. I took me this long to jump to an intel chip, not because it is venerable to worms & trojan scripts but because the cool new software only works on it.
And Frog, I think Macs may have actually eclipsed Windows-based machines in terms of compatibility. We have a wireless printer at the store and it hooked up just fine to all the macs, first try, but our windows 7 point of sale...no dice after hours of troubleshooting. Hell hath indeed frozen over. It's always been just the other way around.
On the contrary the Macintosh has always been superior in Plug and play.. Most times not even needing a manufactures driver program.