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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: OhNoPrinting on January 18, 2024, 10:36:49 AM
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Want to clean up my screen collection and not write with marker all over them.
This is what I want:
(http://oh-no-printing.de/oh_no_screen_printing_prints_2.jpg)
Is it a gadget? is it screen printed on? (but then it would be crazy to include the date?)
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We putt colored stickers on ours. Been great.
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i plan QR codes on sticker (with details of the screen on google sheets) but for the base info (mesh type) it looks cool.
Any recommendation for the sticker material you used? And can you print on those?
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We use a 3 number 0-9 stamp with a letter designation for S or T Mesh. Its a special ink that goes on metal and is solvent resistant. From Hitt Marking.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6vDSycT/IMG-3672.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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i plan QR codes on sticker (with details of the screen on google sheets) but for the base info (mesh type) it looks cool.
Any recommendation for the sticker material you used? And can you print on those?
This is smart, i like the idea of a QR code. A lot more can be tracked that way (ie production date, reten dates etc). Would help with tracking screen pops and gathering historical data.. Interesting.
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Here is how we do it.
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We use color paper (color designates mesh) that is laminated with the screen number on it and track the number through our system. The laminated paper is taped to the screen, out of the way of Tri-Loc spots.
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@Brandt Knowing what you guys print on the daily I really like your mesh selection.
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@Brandt Knowing what you guys print on the daily I really like your mesh selection.
Ya we have very little low mesh around here. Spot color jobs are so rare here. Mostly 8-12 color per side all sim process.
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back in the '80's, the screen dept. I ran had over 4000 wood frames with 1 - 100A, 1 - 100B, etc. all wood burned individually, LOL! No digital data base, but a great index card file.
Steve
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back in the '80's, the screen dept. I ran had over 4000 wood frames with 1 - 100A, 1 - 100B, etc. all wood burned individually, LOL! No digital data base, but a great index card file.
Steve
We used to do that, we had metal number strips that we'd tack on with brads. The looked like a metal version of those embossed label makers from the 80s.
Everything went in a binder for future use. I do not miss that at all.
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We use color coded electrical tape. It's super cheap, and easy to spot from far away.
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We use different color zip ties and have a chart on the wall for easy reference. The only draw back is that on the rollers after retensioning occasionally we have to rotate the knot on the zip tie to the inside of the frame so that there is no risk of hitting the i image print head.
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We actually just hold it up in the light and guess....LOL
For us, 110 and 156 are white screens - we put a pc of blue tape on the 156.
230 and 300 whatever - are yellow and put a pc of blue tape on the 300
Thats on the statics
We have been getting our shurlocs back in rotation again, and those are color coded anyway by the strips.
I dont keep track of anything with them. Every once in a while I just order more panels for the shurloc and it seems to just fill in the ones we had to toss because of holes.
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We are using a Brother P-Touch 700 label printer. They hold up extremely well.
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I color code my mesh. I made a cut out from thin card and spray from a can the color on the frame after we stretch them.
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Thanks for all the great suggestions and example.
in the mean time i am saving up for this toy:
Handheld Inkjet Printer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbq6OXzjOTs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbq6OXzjOTs)
the german "deluxe" version:
https://www.reiner.de/index.php?REINER_940_Kennzeichnungsgeraet (https://www.reiner.de/index.php?REINER_940_Kennzeichnungsgeraet)
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Been doing the barcodes here for years.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CPsyzYkgJFQ/?igsh=MXVnYWFteGs4azE5ZQ==
Using all the same labels on our frames since then too. Any thermal label printer will do the trick.
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CBCB that looks awesome. How are you getting your laminated stickers? Are you laminating them in house?
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CBCB that looks awesome. How are you getting your laminated stickers? Are you laminating them in house?
Nope, it’s literally just the regular label straight out of the label maker. Nothing fancy. And 100s of reclaims over the years.
We thought about adding colours to it, but I’m not really trying to spot a screen from across the shop. Plus, a lot of colours are hard to tell the difference of in the dark room.
One less thing to train people on when they can just read the label and learn to understand what 157:48 Y means.
EDIT: Here is the report it generates: https://imgur.com/gallery/XE0g25O
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Been doing the barcodes here for years.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CPsyzYkgJFQ/?igsh=MXVnYWFteGs4azE5ZQ== (https://www.instagram.com/reel/CPsyzYkgJFQ/?igsh=MXVnYWFteGs4azE5ZQ==)
Using all the same labels on our frames since then too. Any thermal label printer will do the trick.
This is awesome and I would love to do something similar. What are you using to collect and store the data?
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This is awesome and I would love to do something similar. What are you using to collect and store the data?
Thank you. I wanted it so I made it!
It’s a Google Form that we fill out quickly using the barcodes. That goes to a Google Sheet. Connected with Zapier. And then displayed in Google’s Looker Studio.
Pretty sure you could rig up an automatic scanner on an auto reclaim. One day!
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Why do you want to print information on your screen?
We stretch our frames in house, on one side we write, Newtons, Mesh count and date.
Every now and again we check them and if the tension is low we recycle.
I posted a photograph of how we color code the mesh on the frame.
Why do you need computerized lists?
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Why do you want to print information on your screen?
We stretch our frames in house, on one side we write, Newtons, Mesh count and date.
Every now and again we check them and if the tension is low we recycle.
I posted a photograph of how we color code the mesh on the frame.
Why do you need computerized lists?
How many screens do you have?
What mesh count are they?
What are the average number of jobs per screen?
How old are they?
How many screens do you use on average per session, per week, per month?
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We have over 1400 screens in inventory. I don't have time to take a pee break let alone do this for 1400 screens.
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We are using a Brother P-Touch 700 label printer. They hold up extremely well.
Ah...the Brothers. Don't get me wrong the labels are awesome, especially the outdoor UV resistant labels.
But...
Me: "Here is 2" of text."
Labeler: "OK! Here is at least 5" of label! You have no options to reduce the label usage!"
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We have over 1400 screens in inventory. I don't have time to take a pee break let alone do this for 1400 screens.
That was one of the questions and didn’t really even answer it. It takes less than a minute to scan a full rack.
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Labeler: "OK! Here is at least 5" of label! You have no options to reduce the label usage!"
I thought I was the only one infuriated with that. I have small parts bins for electronic components and the minimum label
length won't fit on the bins, I have to cut each label by hand. Urge to kill, rising
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Labeler: "OK! Here is at least 5" of label! You have no options to reduce the label usage!"
I thought I was the only one infuriated with that. I have small parts bins for electronic components and the minimum label
length won't fit on the bins, I have to cut each label by hand. Urge to kill, rising
I print a ton of them together separated by a space and manually cut them. It's a pain, but it works and looks better.
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We are using a Brother P-Touch 700 label printer. They hold up extremely well.
Ah...the Brothers. Don't get me wrong the labels are awesome, especially the outdoor UV resistant labels.
But...
Me: "Here is 2" of text."
Labeler: "OK! Here is at least 5" of label! You have no options to reduce the label usage!"
Drives me nuts as well. But I thought about it and it doesn’t seem like an easy problem to solve haha. There needs to be a bit of tape fed through the machine.
And zero incentive for them to solve it since they sell so much of the consumable. I see way worse examples of this in our industry HAHA.
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The trick is to print multiple at the same time separated by a space and then cut them apart manually. It's an added step, but it always spits out an extra inch or so on either side and I end up trimming it down anyway.
I buy the knockoffs online and save a ton.
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We are using a Brother P-Touch 700 label printer. They hold up extremely well.
Ah...the Brothers. Don't get me wrong the labels are awesome, especially the outdoor UV resistant labels.
But...
Me: "Here is 2" of text."
Labeler: "OK! Here is at least 5" of label! You have no options to reduce the label usage!"
The one we have auto cuts. Tell it how many you want and and it print/cuts until done with out the waste. We also buy the cassettes 3rd party and they are a fraction of the cost.
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I keep a record of how many screens I coat and have this on a Excel that I total monthly.
This tells me how many screens I used, I list according to mesh count so I know how many of each mesh count I used and so also know what proportion per mesh to stretch.
It also tells me how many screens we cleaned per month.
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I keep a record of how many screens I coat and have this on a Excel that I total monthly.
This tells me how many screens I used, I list according to mesh count so I know how many of each mesh count I used and so also know what proportion per mesh to stretch.
It also tells me how many screens we cleaned per month.
What stretcher do you use? We might go back to stretching our screens in-house again.
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I keep a record of how many screens I coat and have this on a Excel that I total monthly.
This tells me how many screens I used, I list according to mesh count so I know how many of each mesh count I used and so also know what proportion per mesh to stretch.
It also tells me how many screens we cleaned per month.
We do the same but sort of in reverse. When we spec out a print (colors/order/meshes) our db keeps track of what meshes
are used day/week/month etc. It also allows forecasting for the screen room in terms of what we'll need for the next day/week, but I stopped
displaying that info in there as I noticed what was being reclaimed was suspiciously close to what we needed.
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It also allows forecasting for the screen room in terms of what we'll need for the next day/week, but I stopped
displaying that info in there as I noticed what was being reclaimed was suspiciously close to what we needed.
Haha, but that seems great! Why reclaim a screen you don’t need? I would love to reclaim exactly what we need plus a minimum quantity of each for emergencies and rush orders.
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Haha, but that seems great! Why reclaim a screen you don’t need? I would love to reclaim exactly what we need plus a minimum quantity of each for emergencies and rush orders.
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That was sort of the idea but "plus a minimum quantity" was the problem. Need to re-shoot the 8 color using all 305's?
Screens are half of the name of what we do, they should always be aplenty.
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Yes I realized our inventory can’t exactly match what we use and 305 is a good example! But it’s an outlier. You do need a minimum amount of inventory but that doesn’t mean there is not a point of excess.
I try to remind myself that inventory isn’t the enemy - it’s Excess Inventory. We’re in trouble anytime we make more of something than what the customer needs. I agree we need plenty of them, but where is the bottleneck?
I want to shoot them as fast as possible from when they are paid for. And I think I want them ready for reclaim instead of ready for exposure. Screens do go bad once coated. Eventually. But they get harder to reclaim the longer they say as well you could argue.
So we can’t get rid of that bottleneck, but I often think about where it’s going to be. I’m leaning towards having them ready for reclaim.
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The fun thing about bottlenecks is, you will ALWAYS have one somewhere.
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What stretcher do you use? We might go back to stretching our screens in-house again.
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I built one a long time ago, pneumatic and it works well. You can buy them on Ali express. If you want I can send you photographs and some technical info.
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Yes I realized our inventory can’t exactly match what we use and 305 is a good example! But it’s an outlier. You do need a minimum amount of inventory but that doesn’t mean there is not a point of excess.
I try to remind myself that inventory isn’t the enemy - it’s Excess Inventory. We’re in trouble anytime we make more of something than what the customer needs. I agree we need plenty of them, but where is the bottleneck?
I want to shoot them as fast as possible from when they are paid for. And I think I want them ready for reclaim instead of ready for exposure. Screens do go bad once coated. Eventually. But they get harder to reclaim the longer they say as well you could argue.
So we can’t get rid of that bottleneck, but I often think about where it’s going to be. I’m leaning towards having them ready for reclaim.
We use a diazo based emulsion that supposedly has the shortest coated shelf life of them all, but in the 15 years we've been using it the only time we've had a screen be certifiably
too old has been some oddball 30 or 60 meshes. We now store those as fully reclaimed/ready to coat, which is what I would aim at if we weren't going the full way.
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The fun thing about bottlenecks is, you will ALWAYS have one somewhere.
The Goal is to put them in the right spots!
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