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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: IntegriTees on January 03, 2018, 11:30:17 AM

Title: clear quart containers
Post by: IntegriTees on January 03, 2018, 11:30:17 AM
I've been ordering the black containers (from GSG) since I started 14 years ago.  I see a lot of you guys using clear containers and it makes sense to be able to see the color inside. 
Where are you sourcing them from?  I'm guessing they have to withstand the ink over many years.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: Stinkhorn Press on January 03, 2018, 11:38:43 AM
little on the pricey side, but QUALITY - been using these exclusively for years:

https://www.katom.com/144-RFS1PP190.html (https://www.katom.com/144-RFS1PP190.html)
cambro kitchen supplies they ARE clear, much nicer than they look in that pic.
matching lid works great (https://www.katom.com/144-RFSC1PP190.html (https://www.katom.com/144-RFSC1PP190.html)).
pliable. decently priced (here only as I can find - $4 a pop elsewhere).
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: rusty on January 03, 2018, 11:48:09 AM
I have gotten mine from webstuarant.com  https://www.webstaurantstore.com/choicehd-32-oz-microwavable-translucent-plastic-deli-container-case/128HD32BULK.html (https://www.webstaurantstore.com/choicehd-32-oz-microwavable-translucent-plastic-deli-container-case/128HD32BULK.html)

they're super cheap but I am actually going to switch over to the heavier duty ones you seem to have been using.

The problems with these is if you mix in the container on the side you just get a nice streaking mixture of all the colors mixed in. Not really helpful for a quick glance to find a color.

But more importantly, these can crack easily and if your mixing bit catches the side and grabs the container you end up with a nice Jackson Pollock painting on your wall.

Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: Frog on January 03, 2018, 11:53:33 AM


The problems with these is if you mix in the container on the side you just get a nice streaking mixture of all the colors mixed in. Not really helpful for a quick glance to find a color.



Something I've shared in Tips and Tricks here as well as other forums over the years, is the trick to apply a slight coating of clear base to any mixing container to  help from having critical components stick to the sides.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: rusty on January 03, 2018, 12:13:03 PM


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Something I've shared in Tips and Tricks here as well as other forums over the years, is the trick to apply a slight coating of clear base to any mixing container to  help from having critical components stick to the sides.
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Thanks. That's a great tip.

Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: blue moon on January 03, 2018, 01:04:42 PM
I have gotten mine from webstuarant.com  https://www.webstaurantstore.com/choicehd-32-oz-microwavable-translucent-plastic-deli-container-case/128HD32BULK.html (https://www.webstaurantstore.com/choicehd-32-oz-microwavable-translucent-plastic-deli-container-case/128HD32BULK.html)

they're super cheap but I am actually going to switch over to the heavier duty ones you seem to have been using.

The problems with these is if you mix in the container on the side you just get a nice streaking mixture of all the colors mixed in. Not really helpful for a quick glance to find a color.

But more importantly, these can crack easily and if your mixing bit catches the side and grabs the container you end up with a nice Jackson Pollock painting on your wall.
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ugh! we use those and I don't remember when was the last time we broke one. It does happen once in a while, but only when we drop them or something like it.
We use small icing spatulas and mix by hand. No problems with ink colors streaking on the side or breaking. . .

pierre

p.s. we actually buy several different sizes (16,24 and 32 oz) to use depending on how much ink we have to mix.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: ebscreen on January 03, 2018, 01:07:42 PM
There are two different weights on the Delitainers, I think the ones linked are the lighter version, and more prone
to breaking. We found out the hard way, with  a couple abstract paintings of our own.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: blue moon on January 03, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
There are two different weights on the Delitainers, I think the ones linked are the lighter version, and more prone
to breaking. We found out the hard way, with  a couple abstract paintings of our own.

yes, sorry, you are correct! We use the milky ones which are heavier duty. . .

pierre
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: Logowear on January 03, 2018, 02:12:46 PM
Uline clear plastic round wide mouth jars.

https://www.uline.com/BL_8153/Clear-Plastic-Round-Wide-Mouth-Jars (https://www.uline.com/BL_8153/Clear-Plastic-Round-Wide-Mouth-Jars)
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: ZooCity on January 03, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
All vaporlocks here and I source them in natural/clear from Rios Industries.   

What I'd really like is clear gallon vaporlocks but never had good luck finding those, just white.

When we were plasti only I liked the clear jars with the screw tops.  The vaporlock lids aren't necessary for plasti and are harder to get off.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: scrubz on January 03, 2018, 04:02:48 PM
I bought a case of the Uline clear plastics, thinking how great it would be to see the colors, learned the hard way that after a few weeks the inks start to harden on the sides.  The white versions of the same containers work great and don't congeal the ink.  I just make a smear on the side of the jar and cover with tape, then I still have the visible color.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: IntegriTees on January 03, 2018, 04:45:32 PM
Uline clear plastic round wide mouth jars.

https://www.uline.com/BL_8153/Clear-Plastic-Round-Wide-Mouth-Jars (https://www.uline.com/BL_8153/Clear-Plastic-Round-Wide-Mouth-Jars)


yeah, i saw the Uline containers.  for $1.89, i thought was a steal.  They are made of Polystyrene.
Then I saw some on Ryonet than are "clearish" and they are made of Polyurethane for $2.99 per

decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: IntegriTees on January 03, 2018, 04:48:15 PM
I bought a case of the Uline clear plastics, thinking how great it would be to see the colors, learned the hard way that after a few weeks the inks start to harden on the sides.  The white versions of the same containers work great and don't congeal the ink.  I just make a smear on the side of the jar and cover with tape, then I still have the visible color.

looks like those are made of Polypropylene,  wondering what the best plastic container is. 
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: tonypep on January 03, 2018, 04:55:39 PM
Black ones here. They are kept immaculate with Pantone printed formulas so didn't need the clear. Think we're up to about 800 colors
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: Bearded Lady on January 04, 2018, 09:13:50 AM
River City Graphic Supply sells the clear Qts for $3.  They look white on their website but they're clear. They last longer than the restaurant containers.  Have plenty of friends that use the restaurant containers though.  I prefer the black qts and pints from GSG.  the lids last longer and stay on better and they seem to preserve water based poster inks better.  I buy TW poster inks by the gallon so have plenty of that size to re-use.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: Du Manchu on January 04, 2018, 09:14:53 AM
Do NOT buy the U-line containers.  They are polystyrene (PS) and the ink chemicals break down the container and it will relatively quickly disintegrate. You'll then have a mess and must throw a bunch of ink away. 

Ideally you want HDPE plastics which is what most all factory inks come in (look at the stamp on the bottom of the container).  This plastic is flexible and less prone to explode when dropped and is chemimcal resistant

PP (polypropylene) is also chemical resistant, but more stiff and brittle.

I have search endlessly for quart containers and finally somehow talked this vendor selling to me direct in case quantities. thecarycompany.com.    Only had PP in the 32oz wide jar.      Likely, the best bet is to just call your ink distributor that mixes custom inks, pay the premium price, and ask them to sell you some of their quarts.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: ThePrinter on January 04, 2018, 10:48:06 AM
Here is a source I found for containers.

https://epackagesupply.com/1-4-gallon-32-oz-bpa-free-food-grade-round-container-250-count-case/

I like the half gallon containers.

https://epackagesupply.com/1-2-gallon-64-oz-bpa-free-food-grade-round-container-t60764-200-count-case/

Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: screenprintguy on January 04, 2018, 05:08:57 PM
Here is a source I found for containers.

https://epackagesupply.com/1-4-gallon-32-oz-bpa-free-food-grade-round-container-250-count-case/

I like the half gallon containers.

https://epackagesupply.com/1-2-gallon-64-oz-bpa-free-food-grade-round-container-t60764-200-count-case/

We've used the "white" containers from Uline and never had issues with plastisols breaking them down, only issue is you are stuck with 32 oz size. Do these last with plastisol in them?

Thanks
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: ThePrinter on January 04, 2018, 06:13:11 PM
We've used the "white" containers from Uline and never had issues with plastisols breaking them down, only issue is you are stuck with 32 oz size. Do these last with plastisol in them?

Thanks

Yes they do. They are made with HDPE 2, the same as the ink manufactures use.
Atleast these are: https://epackagesupply.com/1-2-gallon-64-oz-bpa-free-food-grade-round-container-t60764-200-count-case/

Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: screenprintguy on January 05, 2018, 11:34:48 AM
We've used the "white" containers from Uline and never had issues with plastisols breaking them down, only issue is you are stuck with 32 oz size. Do these last with plastisol in them?

Thanks

Yes they do. They are made with HDPE 2, the same as the ink manufactures use.
Atleast these are: https://epackagesupply.com/1-2-gallon-64-oz-bpa-free-food-grade-round-container-t60764-200-count-case/

Awesome, I hate having to mix multiple containers if needing more than 800 grams mixed on a pantone. the 32 oz will hold 1000 gram mix, but it's a pain in the arse mixing without ink crawling out. Thanks for the info!!
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: ThePrinter on January 05, 2018, 11:43:53 AM
We've used the "white" containers from Uline and never had issues with plastisols breaking them down, only issue is you are stuck with 32 oz size. Do these last with plastisol in them?

Thanks

Yes they do. They are made with HDPE 2, the same as the ink manufactures use.
Atleast these are: https://epackagesupply.com/1-2-gallon-64-oz-bpa-free-food-grade-round-container-t60764-200-count-case/

Awesome, I hate having to mix multiple containers if needing more than 800 grams mixed on a pantone. the 32 oz will hold 1000 gram mix, but it's a pain in the arse mixing without ink crawling out. Thanks for the info!!

Yeah I like having the extra room in the container when mixing quarts. I also like them being translucent, they come in white and/or translucent. 
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: Nation03 on January 28, 2023, 08:18:15 AM
Sorry to revive this old thread, but unfortunutely I didn't see this until it was too late and I purchased the clear wide mouth jars from Uline only to discover that the ink starts to harden along the edges. Luckily I only bought 36 of them so it's not a huge loss. Just wanted to see if anyone has used the ones linked below. I see these are polypropylene so they should be good, but I just want to double check to see if others have used them with no issues before I order them lol.

https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-23742B-W/Jars/Translucent-Round-Wide-Mouth-Plastic-Jars-Bulk-Pack-32-oz-White-Cap?model=S-23742B-W&RootChecked=yes (https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-23742B-W/Jars/Translucent-Round-Wide-Mouth-Plastic-Jars-Bulk-Pack-32-oz-White-Cap?model=S-23742B-W&RootChecked=yes)
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: Logowear on January 28, 2023, 09:15:21 AM
I did the same thing with the styrene jars.
The polypropylene should work, but the standard size like Ryonet used to sell is 40oz.
I bought mine at Parkway Plastics, Piscataway, NJ 08854
www.parkwayjars.com (http://www.parkwayjars.com)

120mm - 40 oz. Clarified Polypropylene.  Minimum 75 pcs.
White Ribbed Cap with foam liner for 120mm Jars. Minimum 240 pcs.
I bought 150 jars & 240 lids. I can sell you some lids if you don't want to buy 240.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: brandon on January 28, 2023, 03:44:27 PM
Go to US Plastics. I'll post the link later for the exact item but you will thank me for Quality and Pricing.
Title: Re: clear quart containers
Post by: Nation03 on January 30, 2023, 10:25:40 AM
Awesome, appreciate both options!