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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: 3Deep on February 08, 2022, 09:57:12 AM
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So yesterday I thought I would purchase a few new screens for an upcoming project S mesh and I was told nope don't have any, and that was from my favorite supplier, just when I thought things have gotten just a touch better. On the brite side they are doing well on remeshing screens, so what else can we not get besides inks, t-shirts and screens ;D
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lol
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we just had 9 - S-mesh screens pop in one day, all the glue is letting go on the edge. Same spot on all of them. At first I thought it was chemicals but they were sitting on the rack waiting for reclaim. They were all the blue glue from River City, The red glue from Spot color is the way to go.... Good to know I order 24 extra screens a few months ago and stored them away... ::)
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The blue from River City are the ones made by Murakami, not Kevin (fyi). That's super weird that they would all fail in the same spot...
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Thank you for sharing, this is great to know. We've had quite a few Murakami S screens pop recently, and I am looking to invest in a ton of new screens to get our PRU to work
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We love working with Scott at https://silkscreensolutions.com/ and he can stretch thin thread with zero issue. We have him fabricate stuff for us as well, including custom mug screens etc. VERY solid dude.
Tell him Jameson at Bumperactive says hi!
Brandon at Spot Color is also a super great guy. I haven't ordered screens from him, but years ago I grabbed an ancient Javelin off a guy and Brandon spent literally hours helping me over the phone to explain how to break it down and check for things just because I asked here if anyone could help. One of my first mind blowing experiences here on the boards of folks just being awesome to each other.
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Thank you for sharing, this is great to know. We've had quite a few Murakami S screens pop recently, and I am looking to invest in a ton of new screens to get our PRU to work
FYI, Scott is right up 35 from us in Belton. He swings through Austin in person usually every week or 2 to grab frames or drop off screens.
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Tell me about it. We are waiting on 3 LVL beams for our house. Lumber has been sitting on our jobsite for 3 weeks waiting on the stupid beams to start framing. I have fixtures ordered that I really don't want to store.
I have been having better luck with supplies thankfully. It seems a lot of Madeira threads are out of stock at Alpha at the moment. Not sure if that is normal or not since i don't order most of my supplies from them.
Bobbins are out at Gunold. We've been having quality problems with other magnetic bobbins and the ones from Gunold are really good.
We are mainly running into oddball outages thankfully. We can stay busy and work around most of them...except for my 24ft long LVLs at the house.
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we order from GSF in chicago. they really know their stuff.
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Eric - I have heard great things about GSF, looking into them
Jameson - thank you for the heads up there, that is an awesome service to have locally
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we order from GSF in chicago. they really know their stuff.
I started to order from them as well. Really nice frames and the thin thread Saati mesh seems a little more durable in my opinion. It's still thin thread so it's definitely still more fragile, but I really like the 158 and 230 thins.
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we order from GSF in chicago. they really know their stuff.
I started to order from them as well. Really nice frames and the thin thread Saati mesh seems a little more durable in my opinion. It's still thin thread so it's definitely still more fragile, but I really like the 158 and 230 thins.
we found the hidro thin thread from saati to be more durable than the murakami smesh.
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we just had 9 - S-mesh screens pop in one day, all the glue is letting go on the edge. Same spot on all of them. At first I thought it was chemicals but they were sitting on the rack waiting for reclaim. They were all the blue glue from River City, The red glue from Spot color is the way to go.... Good to know I order 24 extra screens a few months ago and stored them away... ::)
Different country here but the glue they use here sucks big time. Many shops de-mesh their frames after printing one job then have them re-meshed. Such a waste. Anyway, while they stretch the screens perfectly, to the exact Nm I ask them to, the glue is a real problem. Have ordered now adhesive from RhinoTech which they will use from now on to stretch our screens.
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we order from GSF in chicago. they really know their stuff.
I started to order from them as well. Really nice frames and the thin thread Saati mesh seems a little more durable in my opinion. It's still thin thread so it's definitely still more fragile, but I really like the 158 and 230 thins.
we found the hidro thin thread from saati to be more durable than the murakami smesh.
Oh shoot, good reminder. We still have almost 70 roller frames with brand new hi-dro mesh panels sitting upstairs in our stretching area- for almost 1 year now. Never used them, better get to it.
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I just checked out GSF , might need to order a few dozen and see what happens. Their website is uhh....it's something... but sometimes places that have horrible websites are the hidden gold mines, they don't need good advertising.... if you know, you know...
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Scott stocks both Saati and Murakami thin threads (when stock is available...)
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Just a reminder.....although there are variants, there are two adhesion systems. 2 part cyanoacrylate, and a 1 part lacquer system. The former is
faster and cheaper while the latter takes time to cure and generally more expensive. I feel the lacquer system yields better adhesion
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Whatever spotcolor use on there screens is some really good glue, even when I've had a screen to pop it was tough pulling the mesh off the frame, I had some that I could just rip the mesh from the frame with little effort.
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I just checked out GSF , might need to order a few dozen and see what happens. Their website is uhh....it's something... but sometimes places that have horrible websites are the hidden gold mines, they don't need good advertising.... if you know, you know...
Haha yeah it's a bit 90s looking. I just email them the order form with what I want and it's usually pretty smooth. They also use the red glue and I've had no issues. Tension holds strong. They just got on Instagram recently so if they do a little more marketing they could really blow up. Word of mouth is really their main advertising. I think if I remember correctly, the owner, said they do like 10-15k frames per month.
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I stretch onto GSF and like them.
Saati have a good glue {Kiwo is similar}. It’s a 2 part.
Holds well but if you are restretching on a static you want a glue that will allow the screen to peel off when you pull it.
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Most re-stretch ops have either a Harlacher or Grunig rotary mechanical stripper that strips the frame of glue and lightly re-abrades the aluminium for best adhesion. Back in the day when we re-stretched our own frames we had issues with glue over glue.....bad issues!
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We still do some re-stretching, and grinding off the glue is a drag, but necessary, if you want the mesh to stick that is...
Steve