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« Last post by spencer_L&KC on April 09, 2024, 03:07:56 PM »
This doesn't answer nearly any of your questions, but if you're looking for a different solution, I have a Workhorse Series 2 3190 dryer that we will move pretty inexpensively in Phoenix.
I appreciate the offer, but thats not much bigger than my current BBC conveyor. we are looking to go bigger. You should look at Ranar dryers. Either their Redstar or if you want forced air then the Turbo Jetstar. They have lots of different size options and all the pricing is on the website.
yeah that is a name i see every now and then, but do not know much about. I will check them out though. def want to go forced air as it is time to take WB ink seriously. Gas. electric sucks
considering running gas into the new space. we are also considering using a heat pump and convection stovetop, and eliminating gas altogether (this is a dual purpose building split between the shop and our living space). the cost of gas vs the cost of electric might force our hand to go with gas though. havent decided yet. what MFGs gas dryer should I be looking at if we decide to go with the gas option. and how hard is it to move the dryer around the shop if new/more presses move into the shop? would have to move a rigid gas line around making it more of a pita. The cost to operate gas equipment in my area is expensive. It’s around 2 bucks a therm. What’s the typical gas dryers daily usage of therms?
Yeah maybe it’s a more effective way to cure your prints but is it more energy efficient at that rate? Obviously depends on what electric dryer you would be comparing it to
I am in St. Louis MO and the cost of gas is cheaper than electric.
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« Last post by Rockers on April 09, 2024, 09:26:59 AM »
I guess normal wear is ok, but i don´t need to stretch too much to see these cracks..
The ink is from a local distributor - my guess is, he is rebranding it and it could be AMEX MANOUKIAN, but that is really just a guess and i don´t want to write, so i don´t bad mouth anybody because i can print :-)
Also the ink might just be old? I read, that waterbased ink gets funky?
There are Matsui whites that crack too when being stretched. really depends on how much you stretch. Permaset inks do easily crack.
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« Last post by Rockers on April 09, 2024, 09:21:17 AM »
you are totally right that sending the shirts multiple times through the tunnel is less than ideal. but i will do one more test, where i mix the ink, let it sit for 12 hours /print+tunnel/ and then see if i get the left result which is more than ok in terms of brightness. Its just the waiting time of the ink which makes me wonder if i miss something else. (Like with waterbased white: tried to follow the manual, but.. cracking, so clearly my process is not optimized :-)
I can`t really imagine that letting the ink sit for longer will get you a better result. In many cases the inks won`t discharge very well at all after 8 hours. can I get a link to the product page? Same for the waterbase white.
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« Last post by tonypep on April 09, 2024, 06:10:10 AM »
Not much help here perhaps but, when working with the (now discontinued) Rutland ZFS systems extensively all day every day, we actually activated the inks immediately before printing. No flashing and down the gas dryer 330 degrees normal retention time with no issues for many years.
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« Last post by OhNoPrinting on April 09, 2024, 05:55:01 AM »
you are totally right that sending the shirts multiple times through the tunnel is less than ideal. but i will do one more test, where i mix the ink, let it sit for 12 hours /print+tunnel/ and then see if i get the left result which is more than ok in terms of brightness. Its just the waiting time of the ink which makes me wonder if i miss something else. (Like with waterbased white: tried to follow the manual, but.. cracking, so clearly my process is not optimized :-)
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« Last post by Rockers on April 08, 2024, 06:01:46 PM »
Its (probably) rebranded discharge ink with white pigments mixed into - activator includes Aminoiminomethansulfinsäure but is Formaldehyd-free.
I send an eMail to the supplier to ask what I can check.
My initial thoughts are. Sending it through the dryer 3 times is very different from curing it once at the right speed and temperature. Each time you send it through the ink and the activator need to reach the full temperature first before any further reaction takes place. Magna non-formaldehyde discharge needs to cure for 2.5 - 3 Minutes at 170 degree Celsius. On top of that non formaldehyde discharge whites are generally less bright than classic discharge whites. I assume you don`t have a dryer with good airflow, right?
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« Last post by 3Deep on April 08, 2024, 12:19:22 PM »
Just about everything in our shops can cause cancer, sprays, glues, inks, fumes etc....we have mask and respirators we wear or should wear, I open our doors in the back to air the place out when we are printing, I'm thinking that helps a bunch.
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« Last post by GoWestRob on April 08, 2024, 12:00:54 PM »
interesting, thanks for sharing.
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« Last post by Atownsend on April 08, 2024, 11:51:17 AM »
The output is unique, but the reference materials are in the public domain I’d imagine.
The output is unique, but the reference materials are searchable by Google I’d imagine.
FTFY
I cant find stupid memes that I remember from just a couple years ago, so im not sure how likely that is when the dataset is so large. Maybe I just suck at search. I dont see how its much different that how a human artist operates. Very little in this world is actually original. All of the artists I've have worked with in the past have their process. One guy I worked with would go to Walmart, pose some action figures how and then redraw them adding fonts and text styles. Theres almost always a reference image involved. Fact is most designers I come across can't or wont produce high quality photo realistic graphics. Most don't have the skillset, and so this fills a lot of the gap. There are exceptions, no doubt. Brant has a killer art dept. and I dont think this is is really competitive with that. Its still clipart vs hand drawn. With that being said we're still putting in a lot of work, and this particular design and print is going to be much different than the original output from AI. Its not as simple as copy / paste. Its just a tool in the toolbox, you still need to be very proficient in the raster / vector programs. I don't that its taking away the artists skill as much as its allowing lesser skilled or talented people to come up a bit. We can disagree, but I think its a really cool tool thats only going to continue to advance.
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