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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: KevWilso on June 11, 2014, 11:45:33 AM
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Has anyone ever used this? It is made in Italy; and I am not sure if they have distribution set up here in the states. Curious if anyone has feedback any on it.
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One of our suppliers just started carrying it. Hopefully be testing a few of their lines shortly, and will be sure
to report back here when we do.
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Has anyone ever used this? It is made in Italy; and I am not sure if they have distribution set up here in the states. Curious if anyone has feedback any on it.
Hey Kevin, i know if you guys start carrying it, we'll start buying some! but i know a couple of people on here use it. We were going to buy some to test out, but i forgot honestly!
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I just bought a couple sample sets to play around with. I will let you know if we start stocking it for sure. Their claim of 30 day activated ink shelf life sounds pretty cool.
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SPR has them.
So far, that is the only supplier in the States that carries them, and they only have stock in CA.
I talked to Virus people and they are looking for more suppliers. Contact them and they will be happy to talk to you.
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I believe it is a 6 months shelf life
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Wow 6 months... Even better.
I have been talking with them back and forth this week; I will keep you guys posted.
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I just bought a couple sample sets to play around with. I will let you know if we start stocking it for sure. Their claim of 30 day activated ink shelf life sounds pretty cool.
We would be glad to test some samples of the Virus, if you have any to spare send it up my way...
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same here! I'd love to try it out here. The print they were doing at Long Beach was the whitest white and reddest red I've ever seen!
pierre
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These guys have them and have sample kits for $225
http://www.spresource.com/ (http://www.spresource.com/)
No smell with Discharge and a long shelf file. I believe it has liquid activator and it is not a hazardous material.
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It is a liquid activator. There are a few suppliers in the states but only a few. The kit we got was around $200-$250 can't remember at the moment. From the demo I went to they instruct you to double hit all colors with a 1/4" off contact. ( yes a 1/4" off contact ). Have not had the time to mess with it at the shop as of yet. But I know a few people that are using it & likening it. The white is a nice bright white. This is the hydra series we worked with at the demo, they have a few lines though.
Murphy37
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1/4" off contact
That's nuts. Why would that be needed? anyone?
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Hydra is the opaque non-discharge wb inks.
They tend to be rather thick and sticky, about like printing athletic stuff with no base.
Get use to it now, it's the future. I for one am excited about it.
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Just ordered the kit, should be in next week.
Pigs are compatible with discharge and opaque bases.
Stoked.
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Our local distributer here in Colorado fully stocks Virus - I believe he is 1 of 4 US distributors. Eric@woohooscreenprintsupplies.com is his email and like I said he pretty much has everything in stock for Virus.
We have been testing/playing around with the ink for several months and while it has some serious pro's it also has some pretty big con's imo. As far as their discharge I would take CCI over it all day long, not even comparable for me but some of the special fx, bases, and general purpose inks rock. We have been printing the clear 120 e w/ black pigment for our go to waterbase black for a while now and it kicks butt.
I'll try to jump on here when I can with more info but we are slammed right now. On our 23 setup of the day right now LOL
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Yes the Hydra sounds like an HSA. Def takes some getting used to, properties are unlike any other ink though it shares a few traits from all it seems.
We just invested heavily in Rutland's WB-99 series as the pigs drop into an HSA base...too bad the colors mixed out of the base + pigs are not opaque (those with white are fine but something like 185c...forget about it) and it sounds like an RFU system is needed, defeating the whole purpose of our migration to the system. I really don't want to switch things up in here again as the cost and ag is significant, not to mention the confusion with staff but I would big time like to have a single pigment set for WB, DC and HSA. Seems to be a holy grail I can't find.
Would love to hear if this Virus system gets it done on that subject- single pigment set for loading into all inks, opaque coverage of HSA over a base.
I thought some had tested their UB mix and found it kinda inferior? Maybe I'm mixing that up but I thought there were pics and it looked so-so from what I remember seeing. Could just be that specific product I suppose.
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The UB everyone tried was a different product, not Virus. I have it here on my desk still waiting till someone
comes up with a viable use for it.
I saw a sample of an overprinted base with the Hydra series. Really, really nice. Rep said that when testing with
the dudes from Italy they left the job setup over night.
I've got a product list of what they've got in stock. The number of additives and special effect is mind boggling.
They have a base for printing on poly as well. Works with same pigs.
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Zoo the stuff that you were thinking of was something like Simplestix or something close to that. They actually have come out with a base, bright base and a white now. Apparently they are going to also have RFU's and a pigment system, but the guy swears you have to only use his pigments with his base. No word on a HSA from my understanding.
I have talked with a few people that print with Virus stuff in Europe and they all kind of echo the same thing, actually kind of what Danny said... Special effects, or special applications they are killer, but expensive to use as a everyday ink, very nice, but expensive. And that is pricing with shipping from Italy to Portugal, Spain or Germany. My guess that Italy to the states may add a penny or two....
IMO the long shelf life activated discharge losses some appeal once you can accurately judge how much ink to mix for a job(something we still struggle with). Not that it wouldn't be cool, but I just think it is one of those paying for convenience situations.