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Title: hot shop
Post by: Sbrem on June 19, 2018, 07:01:13 PM
Hey all, our new shop is pretty damn hot, 95° plus, so we're checking out the assorted offerings of roof ventilators, powered and non-powered. Anyone have any opinions to share? About the ventilators I mean, lol...

Steve
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: blue moon on June 19, 2018, 07:18:53 PM
ventilation direct seems to be a good source. We bought a large fan and had them build another housing.

pierre
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: kingscreen on June 19, 2018, 08:57:03 PM
We just installed two 20” wall exhaust fans. It makes a noticeable difference.
Northern Tool.
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: LuckyFlyinROUSH on June 19, 2018, 08:58:50 PM
It's 95 outside here. Biggest AC you can buy. Pipe it down directly on top of operators. Really makes them hustle to do setups so they can get back under it.
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: GraphicDisorder on June 20, 2018, 06:51:02 AM
We have 3 large fans maybe 30-36 inch fans I think installed high on our side wall pushing air out. Dropped temps around 5-10 degrees.
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: mk162 on June 20, 2018, 08:23:58 AM
We have a louvered exhaust fan on the side of the building, this is a great option if you don't want to punch a hole in the ceiling, it's much harder to get leaks around these.

We also recently installed a big 1200cfm exhaust fan to pull the spillout heat from the oven.  We figured capture it at the source.  That has helped more than anything else in the shop.

We also run a portacool 48" fan.  That helps a lot too, but the name of the game with that is air exchange.  You need to be pulling air out faster than the portacool is bringing it in. Otherwise it gets very humid and that doesn't help at all.



Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: GraphicDisorder on June 20, 2018, 08:34:35 AM

We also recently installed a big 1200cfm exhaust fan to pull the spillout heat from the oven.  We figured capture it at the source.  That has helped more than anything else in the shop.

Got a image of that on how you did it?
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: mk162 on June 20, 2018, 08:41:39 AM
Here you go!  The ends are metal boxes, 12h, 18d x 54" wide.  I wrapped them in 1.5" ductboard because they were pretty hot.  We are going to insulate the rest of the ducts when we have some downtime.

We paid an HVAC guy to do it.  It was easier to let him order the roof curb and have everything fabricated.
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Rockers on June 20, 2018, 09:15:03 AM
We just installed two 20” wall exhaust fans. It makes a noticeable difference.
Northern Tool.
Do they make a lot of noise?  I`m looking as well at options for a wall exhaust fans. Where did you buy those?
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: mk162 on June 20, 2018, 09:32:44 AM
Our new rig is almost silent FYI, the fan is mounted outside on a custom roof curb.  I am thinking of installing an indicator light on the circuit to notify us that it's on. 
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Jepaul on June 20, 2018, 10:07:43 AM
Here you go!  The ends are metal boxes, 12h, 18d x 54" wide.  I wrapped them in 1.5" ductboard because they were pretty hot.  We are going to insulate the rest of the ducts when we have some downtime.

We paid an HVAC guy to do it.  It was easier to let him order the roof curb and have everything fabricated.
Nice!!
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Robert Clark on June 20, 2018, 10:38:58 AM
I have a shop down south the swears by The Big Ass Fan .. just my two cents .

https://www.bigassfans.com/ (https://www.bigassfans.com/)
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Post by: balloonguy on June 20, 2018, 11:07:17 AM
I would love a BAF but they are really pricey. They do work great though. There a few places near by that have them. They give a gentle breeze that makes it so much more comfortable!
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Post by: Atownsend on June 20, 2018, 11:20:07 AM
We picked up 6 used warehouse fans for around $100 each. Very clean nice working fans with wall mounts. https://www.americansurplus.com/used-equipment/ (https://www.americansurplus.com/used-equipment /)Pushes air out of the building through the bay door. An improvement but not a total solution. Still very hot on the 100F day that we experienced yesterday. We wrapped our precision dryer with insulation and that helped as well. Still seeing a mirage from one side of the dryer to the other and tempers are getting hot with the weather. May have to run production 6am -2p as a stopgap. Probably wont be in this bldg too much longer so I don't really want to punch a big hole on the wall. Following this thread...
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: SEPSINK on June 20, 2018, 11:28:11 AM
We have a couple portacool swamp cooler fans that seem to help out.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/819DLOcQAiL._SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: ericheartsu on June 20, 2018, 12:16:42 PM
We've bought a bunch of spot coolers and fans from global industrial.
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Sbrem on June 20, 2018, 02:07:40 PM
Here you go!  The ends are metal boxes, 12h, 18d x 54" wide.  I wrapped them in 1.5" ductboard because they were pretty hot.  We are going to insulate the rest of the ducts when we have some downtime.

We paid an HVAC guy to do it.  It was easier to let him order the roof curb and have everything fabricated.

Now that's downright pretty...

Steve
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Post by: mk162 on June 20, 2018, 02:10:46 PM
Here you go!  The ends are metal boxes, 12h, 18d x 54" wide.  I wrapped them in 1.5" ductboard because they were pretty hot.  We are going to insulate the rest of the ducts when we have some downtime.

We paid an HVAC guy to do it.  It was easier to let him order the roof curb and have everything fabricated.

Now that's downright pretty...

Steve

You have no idea how much I want to give it a bronze patina and go steam punk with it...
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Sbrem on June 20, 2018, 02:15:01 PM
It's 95 outside here. Biggest AC you can buy. Pipe it down directly on top of operators. Really makes them hustle to do setups so they can get back under it.

great idea, if we only could afford to do that...

Steve
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Sbrem on June 20, 2018, 04:53:59 PM
I have a shop down south the swears by The Big Ass Fan .. just my two cents .

https://www.bigassfans.com/ (https://www.bigassfans.com/)

Um, since heat rises, and it's hotter at the ceiling, why would I want to push that air downward? Am I missing something? How does that remove heat?

Steve
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Biverson on June 21, 2018, 12:00:01 AM
I have a shop down south the swears by The Big Ass Fan .. just my two cents .

https://www.bigassfans.com/ (https://www.bigassfans.com/)

Um, since heat rises, and it's hotter at the ceiling, why would I want to push that air downward? Am I missing something? How does that remove heat?

Steve

I imagine it’s like most fans where in the summer you have it pulling air up and in the winter pushing the hot air down.


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Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: kingscreen on June 21, 2018, 02:29:44 AM
We just installed two 20” wall exhaust fans. It makes a noticeable difference.
Northern Tool.
Do they make a lot of noise?  I`m looking as well at options for a wall exhaust fans. Where did you buy those?

Not as much as we expected. You can have a normal conversation beside it. I think they’re rated at 77db.
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Maxie on June 21, 2018, 05:49:40 AM
I looked at one of those cooler fans but am nervious that the excessive moisture will effect the electronic boards of our carousel, etc.
They blow a lot of water into the air, we have one behind the oven.
At the moment we have regular fans aimed at the printers.
I read sometimes that people put Plasitsol in the screen drying room to warm it up, here the screen room is air conditioned and much cooler than the rest of the factory.
They must be in really cold places.
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Prince Art on June 21, 2018, 09:14:51 AM
... tempers are getting hot with the weather...

Maybe you should try the approach my old shop used - a case of these in the breakroom freezer!  ;D
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: mk162 on June 21, 2018, 10:30:28 AM
We supply gatorades for the crew...
Title: Re: hot shop
Post by: Sbrem on June 21, 2018, 11:17:26 AM
I have a shop down south the swears by The Big Ass Fan .. just my two cents .

https://www.bigassfans.com/ (https://www.bigassfans.com/)

Um, since heat rises, and it's hotter at the ceiling, why would I want to push that air downward? Am I missing something? How does that remove heat?

Steve

I imagine it’s like most fans where in the summer you have it pulling air up and in the winter pushing the hot air down.


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These seem to be better suited to more modern, or at least updated facilities. If we pull the heat up, it still has nowhere to go. It's looking like the through the roof option, though we do have one outside wall. Thanks for the input everybody.

Steve