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Title: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Screened Gear on October 17, 2011, 07:57:17 PM
I had a job today that was a bunch of these tanks. They are really thin and silky. The tag said 100% Viscose. What is Viscose? Viscose is a viscous organic liquid used to make rayon and cellophane. Viscose is becoming synonymous with rayon, a soft material commonly used in shirts, shorts, coats, jackets, and other outer wear.

I had to put so much tak on my boards that if you push your had down on them it felt like your skin would rip off before your hand would release. They are so thin that they are a pain to put on the boards and you have to apply a good amount of pressure to get a good print. I printed my white under base with alot of pressure to get the tank stick down as much as possible then flash and top color.

Any advice on getting them to stay put...Anyone print them alot?
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Nation03 on October 17, 2011, 09:14:08 PM
Never printed on them. What kind of tack were you using? Maybe a web adhesive would work well?
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Screened Gear on October 18, 2011, 01:13:49 AM
I use Topbond and some I got from Sonny. The stuff I got from sonny was what i used at 100% flashed then did another layer. It was really sticky. Web spray would not be stickier. I haven't used spray in almost 2 years.
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Screened Gear on November 22, 2011, 03:54:49 PM
Has anyone printed on AA Viscose shirts. They have to be new. I have a client that keeps sending them to me and they are just killing me. I mess up 1-3 of them every time. I have tried manually printing them and on the auto. They just don't stay down. The boards can't be stickier.
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: squeegee on November 22, 2011, 03:58:49 PM
What about a jacket hold-down?  Never printed them but the hold down might work.
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: mk162 on November 22, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
2 part epoxy?  ;D

Try switching to a higher mesh or thin your ink a bit to reduce sticking to the back of the screen.
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Screened Gear on November 22, 2011, 04:08:55 PM
Jacket hold down would work if I had one and it was 12 x 14. They are big prints and the material is silky and very thin.

I have thinned the ink and used different meshes. (they are black so the ink still need to cover)

I can't believe I am the only one that has printed these. They suck
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Frog on November 22, 2011, 04:13:53 PM
Jacket hold down would work if I had one and it was 12 x 14. They are big prints and the material is silky and very thin.

I have thinned the ink and used different meshes. (they are black so the ink still need to cover)

I can't believe I am the only one that has printed these. They suck

As I tell my clients and have as a disclaimer as I link to the catalog on my website, "not all garments are suitable for screen printing."

Sorry that I have no solution for you, but if I were in your shoes, I'd contact the manufacturer, and ask what they suggest.
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: mk162 on November 22, 2011, 04:22:05 PM
transfers?
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: ebscreen on November 22, 2011, 04:38:16 PM
American Apparel has some funky recommendations as for what prints well. Pretty much anything that
says "good screen printing results" run fast.

Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Frog on November 22, 2011, 04:56:44 PM
transfers?

I have actually had some pucker issues with Rayon, so, proceed at your own risk
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Homer on November 22, 2011, 05:23:14 PM
staple gun.
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: tonypep on November 23, 2011, 07:52:52 AM
We go back and forth with spray and W/B tack. As we print the AA Viscose daily we have come up with a combination of a W/B base and Am Niagra spray. No misprints.
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Homer on November 23, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
TP -how do you not get the web to show up in the print on such a thin garment? ahh you use mist. . .ok, answered my own question. .mist and wb, thank God for pallet tape huh?!
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: tonypep on November 23, 2011, 08:47:00 AM
Correct, to clarify water base adhesive base with a mist spray as an occaisional bump. We print a lot of this for a licensed sorority group.
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: Admiral on January 27, 2012, 03:59:03 AM
Only printed the AA viscose once, came out with this:

(http://i.imgur.com/3Q9cU.jpg)

used a lot of tack after almost every shirt...and waterbase at the beginning of the job too if I remember correctly

Definitely a slower print that typical but didn't mess any up even though I noticed a couple coming off a bit of the platen...
Title: Re: AA Viscose Tank - What holds this stuff down...
Post by: DILLON on February 12, 2012, 08:08:33 PM
Dang, nice print! When I had an order that used these, I just used the same sprayway I have been using. No problems with it, but I was printing one hit on a manual, so that may have had something to do with it