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Title: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: blue moon on March 11, 2020, 09:51:46 AM
anybody going? I would prefer not to go, but am speaking.
Who's going and who's cancelling?

pierre
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: rusty on March 11, 2020, 10:08:25 AM
I am cancelling. I was looking forward to the first year of attending seminars but I feel things will be getting worse in the next few weeks and I am actually worried about business.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on March 11, 2020, 10:12:10 AM
I bet attendance is going to be way down.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on March 11, 2020, 11:05:15 AM
There is no way I would go. Just as a precaution. Pierre even as a speaker I would cancel.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on March 11, 2020, 11:13:09 AM
Id say still good odds it will be canceled. They are canceling events that are much more important than a screen print trade show.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: rusty on March 11, 2020, 11:34:46 AM
Id say still good odds it will be canceled. They are canceling events that are much more important than a screen print trade show.

I agree. And they should cancel it sooner than later to not leave traveling people in a bind.

I am in new york city and I am expecting a shut down down of most things including public transportation to a certain degree. I think the sooner the better.

Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: Maff on March 11, 2020, 01:05:59 PM
We were planning to go Friday and Saturday, but now are reconsidering. We're going to make a final decision early next week.
 
Ryonte has cancelled going. (and also to Orlando) I'll bet other Vendors are also going to keep dropping out...

I feel like they are going to cancel the whole show, but I still keep getting emails each day about the show being on, so who knows
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: DannyGruninger on March 11, 2020, 01:11:11 PM
I heard m&r is pulling out/pulled out and the show is going to be rescheduled to a later date this year. I was planning to go but it looks like that probably won't happen. The media has really got this deal blazing which is no bueno.....
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: mk162 on March 11, 2020, 01:30:12 PM
With so much uncertainty I can't blame companies from cancelling.  I'd rather lose money than put my employees in danger.

My daughter has a play coming up and my in-laws are cancelling their plane trip here.  It's a safe move.

I agree with the others pierre, I'd cancel the trip, even if I was speaking.  If M&R pulls out it's done anyway.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: KevinD on March 11, 2020, 01:59:16 PM
I am a scheduled exhibitor for the show. I talked to ISS this morning and this was my response.

As of this minute, we are still moving forward with the event; however, monitoring the situation very closely as things are changing daily. Certainly nothing is out of the question at this point, and Senior Management is currently discussing all options. As I hear more information, or should things change, I will be in touch right away!

I am guessing if it is still going to happen attendance will be down about 40%
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: rusty on March 11, 2020, 02:25:51 PM
Just got the email Gildan is pulling out so I expect many others to follow. And if M&R pulls out its done for.

Better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: blue moon on March 11, 2020, 02:41:11 PM
I am a scheduled exhibitor for the show. I talked to ISS this morning and this was my response.

As of this minute, we are still moving forward with the event; however, monitoring the situation very closely as things are changing daily. Certainly nothing is out of the question at this point, and Senior Management is currently discussing all options. As I hear more information, or should things change, I will be in touch right away!

I am guessing if it is still going to happen attendance will be down about 40%
I think at best the attendance is going to be down TO 40%. Probably a ghost town with exhibitors and attendees missing. I don't know that it's fair to the attendees to come to a show with major exhibitors not being there.
The part that has me concerned is the fact that there are many international exhibitors and many are from Asia and central Europe (two hardest hit areas). I am not worried about getting sic, but rather transmitting it to somebody who might not survive.
pierre
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: KevinD on March 11, 2020, 02:46:54 PM
My guess is by Friday we will know if it is canceled. a lot of people involved with this decision. The exhibitor supply vendors, along with ISS insurance claims for their loss.  Not looking forward to chasing all the different investments i have made to be at the show.  But i don't want to go to a show and hear crickets.....
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: mk162 on March 11, 2020, 02:54:02 PM
Some of our customers are cancelling large events too.  I am hoping this blows over fast for several reasons.

Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: Homer on March 11, 2020, 03:00:56 PM
  I'd rather lose money than put my employees in danger.


what danger? a cough?....damn media has the world upside down....
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: GKitson on March 11, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
Pierre has brought up a great point of discussion regarding the upcoming Atlantic City Impressions Expo and the Corona virus.  I apologize for a bit of redirection as I hijack this thread and propose the following.

Regardless of the 'official' decision regarding the upcoming event I think most will agree the Expo will not be all that it could be with the well justified concerns about personal and economic health that we are faced with.

With a little attention to personal hygiene the 'average' adult has little to worry about regarding travel to this event. 

With reservations made and scheduled time off already on the books I propose that attending can still have a substantial ROI.  MAKE the time to touch base with peers who are still attending and contrast and compare where your business currently is and where is is going in the future.

Even if you choose to not make the physical trip to AC take advantage of the time blocked off your calendar to begin your own business audit and review.  Be your own consultant and re-visit those things you know  you need to do to improve your business.

Thoughts from the trenches appreciated.....

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: mk162 on March 11, 2020, 03:14:16 PM
  I'd rather lose money than put my employees in danger.


what danger? a cough?....damn media has the world upside down....

It's a lot more than a cough.  I am of the mindset don't panic, do prepare.  I fall more in the middle in my view of it.  I will say though that I wouldn't do a conference...vacation yes, conference or trade show, no.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: Frog on March 11, 2020, 03:41:02 PM
  I'd rather lose money than put my employees in danger.


what danger? a cough?....damn media has the world upside down....



It's a lot more than a cough.  I am of the mindset don't panic, do prepare.  I fall more in the middle in my view of it.  I will say though that I wouldn't do a conference...vacation yes, conference or trade show, no.

Accusations of hoaxes and fake news and Presidential untruths and blunders notwithstanding, all health folks seem to point out the potential especially raised danger for those of us over 60, and advise currently avoiding situations that place a lot of people, some possibly infected, together in close quarters. This is not panic or over-reacting, it's called prudence. Changing our behavior for a few months is a pretty damn simple yet effective prophylactic measure.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: TCT on March 11, 2020, 04:03:16 PM


Even if you choose to not make the physical trip to AC take advantage of the time blocked off your calendar to begin your own business audit and review.  Be your own consultant and re-visit those things you know  you need to do to improve your business.


RIGHT here is the jewel from this thread to pay attention to. For me personally if I scheduled to go somewhere and things fall through(maybe a MEG workshop or 3 among other things) I am right back at work the next day as if it were a regular work day. If you blocked that time off to better your business in one way or another, it is great advice to keep with that commitment even if it is not going to the trade show/class/bar or whatever...   
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: blue moon on March 11, 2020, 07:58:43 PM
Pierre has brought up a great point of discussion regarding the upcoming Atlantic City Impressions Expo and the Corona virus.  I apologize for a bit of redirection as I hijack this thread and propose the following.

Regardless of the 'official' decision regarding the upcoming event I think most will agree the Expo will not be all that it could be with the well justified concerns about personal and economic health that we are faced with.

With a little attention to personal hygiene the 'average' adult has little to worry about regarding travel to this event. 

With reservations made and scheduled time off already on the books I propose that attending can still have a substantial ROI.  MAKE the time to touch base with peers who are still attending and contrast and compare where your business currently is and where is is going in the future.

Even if you choose to not make the physical trip to AC take advantage of the time blocked off your calendar to begin your own business audit and review.  Be your own consultant and re-visit those things you know  you need to do to improve your business.

Thoughts from the trenches appreciated.....

My 2 cents.

How about a workshop at MEG?

Pierre
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: Maxie on March 12, 2020, 02:34:51 AM
I think you guys are underestimating the devastating effects of the virus.
I see that all European flights have been banned.
The problem is not getting the virus, most healthy people will survive with not much more than a flu like sickness, problem is that once you get it you spread it to others.
They said that if a person with regular flu infects 9 other people on average with Corona it's 40+.
In Israel they have not stopped flights but there aren't many because everybody arriving in the country has to go into a 2 week isolation.
They have not restricted gatherings to 100 people, no weddings, sport, concerts, trade shows.
I suggest you start thinking about how you are going to survive, do you have bank loans?    Leases to pay?     Salaries?       
I am there now, I need about $100,000 a month of sales to cover my running expenses.      I'm not going to get near that so how long can I last without firing everybody and taking other drastic measures.
Most of the world has some sort of public health system that can test people and try and control the spread and they are not succeeding.      Italy do not have respirators for all the sick people, I heard that they are taking elderly people off support systems inorder to save young people.       The USA is not prepared for Coronavirus.      This is like a major storm coming your way, you know it's coming just a matter of when.     Be prepared.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: merchmonster on March 12, 2020, 03:05:31 AM
Recession is coming for sure, like Maxie is alluding to. I would cut staff now, you cannot help them if you are out of business. I just audited my expenses for places I can cut.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: merchmonster on March 12, 2020, 03:15:11 AM
I'm also a speaker but definitely on the fence about going.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: 1964GN on March 12, 2020, 05:24:10 AM
SPSI has cancelled too so no MHM
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on March 12, 2020, 06:36:18 AM
Good watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts)
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: Maxie on March 12, 2020, 08:58:14 AM
Very unlikely that there will be a ISS Altlantic city.
One thing about this virus it multiplies fast.
Two weeks ago Italy had a few cases, today it's under lock down.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: blue moon on March 12, 2020, 10:18:31 AM
Good watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts)

thank you for posting that. best info I've seen so far. . .

pierre
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on March 12, 2020, 10:23:19 AM
Good watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts)

thank you for posting that. best info I've seen so far. . .

pierre

I think its important people get informed but don't panic.

Odds are most of us will not even get sick. But we will go broke in the economic fall out.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: KevinD on March 12, 2020, 10:33:11 AM
I just got the e-mail. 

 Impressions Atlantic City 2020 postponed until October 2020
The health and safety of each and every member of our community and our staff is of the utmost importance to us. After closely monitoring the risk and impact of COVID-19 on a daily basis, and speaking at length with members of our community, Impressions Expo Atlantic City, which had been scheduled for March 19-21, 2020, at the Atlantic City Convention Center in Atlantic City, NJ., has been postponed to October. Impressions Expo Atlantic City 2020 will now take place Thursday, October 8 to Saturday, October 10, 2020, at the Atlantic City Convention Center in Atlantic City, NJ.

The recent developments regarding COVID-19, including, but not limited to, the State of Emergency recently announced by Governor Phil Murphy, the declaration by the WHO of COVID-19 as a pandemic, the accelerating pace of confirmed cases worldwide and domestically, the current quarantines and travel restrictions imposed by government authorities affecting participating companies, various company-imposed travel restrictions on employees, and the cancellation of several key Impressions Expo Atlantic City customers, partners and speakers, made it impossible to effectively execute a March event that delivers the level of education, connection, and customer value our communities expect. Driven by our responsibility to produce a great event and best serve the interests of our Impressions communities, we made the decision to postpone the Atlantic City event until October 2020.

Impressions Expo’s mission is providing purchasing, networking and educational opportunities for decorated apparel communities to learn how to make their business platforms more profitable and to navigate the marketplace efficiently. This priority is the driving force behind our commitment to produce an October 2020 show that meets the needs and expectations of our communities.

We are focused on continuing to serve our industry, creating ways to connect and working closely with our communities, to provide the necessary support and information to prepare them for a successful October 2020 show.

We appreciate your ongoing loyalty to Impressions Expo Atlantic City and thank you in advance for your understanding. The information on our website will be promptly updated and further announcements regarding the October 8-10, 2020, edition of Impressions Expo Atlantic City will be posted in due course.

For all exhibitors, please know that your Impressions Expo Atlantic City booth space is still reserved for the October event! Our team will be reaching out with a one-page contract addendum requiring acknowledgement of the new event dates. You can also expect a full FAQ list later this week, which may help address any and all other questions that come with date change logistics.
Best Regards,
Impressions Expo Management Team
 
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: BP on March 12, 2020, 12:28:31 PM
the press needs to shut up!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=PWY0oZV51VY&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=PWY0oZV51VY&feature=emb_logo)
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on March 12, 2020, 12:36:29 PM
the press needs to shut up!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=PWY0oZV51VY&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=PWY0oZV51VY&feature=emb_logo)

That video is more than a month old.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: mk162 on March 12, 2020, 02:39:31 PM
the press needs to shut up!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=PWY0oZV51VY&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=PWY0oZV51VY&feature=emb_logo)

That video is more than a month old.

and he's still saying the same thing...he's right.  The media can't report anything without making it seem like a crisis.  This is why I stopped watching the national news .  Local news is still pretty much fine for the most part.  Much less sky is falling BS.
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: Homer on March 12, 2020, 03:22:01 PM
only news I believe comes from Joe Rogan.  ;D
Title: Re: Atlantic City and Corona?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on March 12, 2020, 03:46:33 PM
the press needs to shut up!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=PWY0oZV51VY&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=PWY0oZV51VY&feature=emb_logo)

That video is more than a month old.

and he's still saying the same thing...he's right.  The media can't report anything without making it seem like a crisis.  This is why I stopped watching the national news .  Local news is still pretty much fine for the most part.  Much less sky is falling BS.

I think it was under hyped to start, now its over hyped. But if you want to panic people close a MLB season or NBA season or NHL season....those things will freak people out. Not CNN. I watched CNN and MSNBC for 4hrs last night (something I really never do because I can't stand them). They were more or less arguing about Trump the entire time. Not Corona.