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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: ThePrinter on August 03, 2017, 12:11:59 PM

Title: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: ThePrinter on August 03, 2017, 12:11:59 PM
How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh? Mainly talking about aluminum frames.
Just wanted to see what the general consensus is.
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: Frog on August 03, 2017, 12:30:40 PM
Do you mean number of impressions? It should be in the thousands.
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: ThePrinter on August 03, 2017, 12:36:26 PM
Yeah impressions/prints. I saw an article from Printwear and the writer was saying "A screen can be used for approximately 20 print jobs before it needs to be re-meshed." Did not sound right to me, that is why I started the poll to see what others say.

link to article:

https://printwearmag.com/features/steps-ensure-easy-reclaim?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20170802%20PW%20eNews%20(1)&utm_content=&spMailingID=17775795&spUserID=MTcxMzkyNDA3ODM2S0&spJobID=1080061984&spReportId=MTA4MDA2MTk4NAS2
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: Frog on August 03, 2017, 12:47:17 PM
That would be completely dependent on how large the runs are. I tend to run as few as 12 and as many as 300. Many shops, 300 is chump change.
Do you have a tension meter? Check the screens when new, after the first use, and then monitor them.
Heck, in some folks minds, the average aluminum frame needs remeshing upon arrival!
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: tonypep on August 03, 2017, 01:12:39 PM
Don't believe everything you read, especially in Printwear. That statement is blatantly misleading. Its one of the reasons I don't write for them.
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: Frog on August 03, 2017, 01:21:00 PM
Don't believe everything you read, especially in Printwear. That statement is blatantly misleading. Its one of the reasons I don't write for them.

Years ago, when another publication (since defunct) asked me to write about CLC transfers, I realized that they had set the bar far too low.
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: dirkdiggler on August 03, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
I have some that have been with us for 7 years and still put out GREAT prints with them everyday.
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: tonypep on August 03, 2017, 01:32:33 PM
When Mark Buchannan was at the helm he set the bar much higher. He was my editor for over a decade
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: mimosatexas on August 03, 2017, 02:23:06 PM
I have screens that have been cycled I have no clue how many times, but they probably have less total impressions than single runs would put on a screen at big auto shops. I think if it's good mesh and you take care of it they don't really have a specific life.
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: aauusa on August 03, 2017, 03:41:16 PM
that's like asking how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop.  :)
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: Colin on August 03, 2017, 03:43:16 PM
3

*crunch*
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: GKitson on August 03, 2017, 04:57:06 PM
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

1, 2, 3 crunch, most of you can see the commercial in your Mind's Eye...
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: Doug S on August 04, 2017, 08:36:10 AM
Yep, that is way too "in general" .  The screen could be done in 1 job if the run was in the thousands or 200 or 300 jobs if all of them were 12 pc runs.  Then there is mesh types to consider.  The best way like mentioned before is a tension meter. 
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: Inkworks on August 04, 2017, 03:07:49 PM
They retire themselves by breaking at some point, there is no set number.
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: 3Deep on August 04, 2017, 05:04:35 PM
How many prints.... until the mesh rips or the newtons are to low to keep even a single print flash print registration print
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: alan802 on August 28, 2017, 11:22:47 AM
I have a few screens that have been through production a few hundred times.  If the tension is up to my standards then they stay in the rota.  Really hard to say how many impressions are on them and my attempts at keeping a log/inventory concerning how many times a specific screen is being used have fallen short.  With shopworks I think I can barcode each screen and it has a lot of functions that you can use with the barcode system but someone would have to get involved that I don't want in my business when it comes to shopworks functions.
Title: Re: How many prints do you put through a screen before you replace or re-mesh?
Post by: Sbrem on August 29, 2017, 08:24:47 AM
Yeah impressions/prints. I saw an article from Printwear and the writer was saying "A screen can be used for approximately 20 print jobs before it needs to be re-meshed." Did not sound right to me, that is why I started the poll to see what others say.

link to article:

https://printwearmag.com/features/steps-ensure-easy-reclaim?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20170802%20PW%20eNews%20(1)&utm_content=&spMailingID=17775795&spUserID=MTcxMzkyNDA3ODM2S0&spJobID=1080061984&spReportId=MTA4MDA2MTk4NAS2

Very ambiguous, it's like telling someone that to play the flute, you blow in this end and move your fingers around the rest of it... It really does depend on the amount of impressions and how many times it's reclaimed. If it helps, we are running a 7K order right now, only one set of screens per side, which is exactly what I would expect, and they will be reclaimed and reused. And for those of us old enough, yes, the flute reference is from Monty Python.

Steve