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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: Gilligan on August 04, 2017, 12:42:25 PM
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My new guys blew through our last gallon of 701.
I'm just looking to give them an idea of how much most shops use in comparison.
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Sorry, easiway 701 ink degradent.
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We get about 800-900 out of a 5.
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Gilley that really depends on the user, had a guy come in and clean for us and he used a whole gal on 40 screens, I was like whatttttttttt dam!!!!!, but when I clean I get something like hundred or more per gal, to be fair I'm cleaning 20 x 24 and 20 x 28 size screens
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying... They went through a gallon in like 20-30 screens!
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They are carding off the ink on the screen first and not using it to dissolve all the ink left on the screen, right?
Just saying
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They are carding off the ink on the screen first and not using it to dissolve all the ink left on the screen, right?
Just saying
;)
Yeah, that was stressed to them. The more ink they get off the easier to clean.
I've left a little more ink on a screen once so they could see the difference.
I'll have to see how they are doing though.
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We use a spray bottle and mist it on with very light pressure on the trigger so not to blow it through. 2 to 3 pumps is plenty. We use it full strength. A gallon last hundreds of screens.
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So, anyone using it in dip tanks or a recirculating system? Does it go further?
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I use supra in my tank and 701 basically as a dehaze. Couple of sprays per side. Can do a lot of screens per gallon, but no clue how many. Definitely more than 40...lol
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I use supra in my tank and 701 basically as a dehaze. Couple of sprays per side. Can do a lot of screens per gallon, but no clue how many. Definitely more than 40...lol
You doing a one step dip tank? Ink and emulsion? Just carding off ink or wiping it out with a rag or something?
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https://youtu.be/4MqWWBFESOU (https://youtu.be/4MqWWBFESOU)
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.....I'm a big fan of Easiway products. Mostly, because they are effective and competitively priced.
My dip-tank started leaking and I called them to order a new tank.... they offered to send a bulkhead style repair valve (for free) with instructions how to cut out the old valve (which was plastic welded in). The replacement valve worked perfect and saved me $150
Also, because they are located in my home state (Minnesota). They have a modest size operation located in the handsome small town of Delano,MN.
The South fork of the Crow river runs right thru the center of town and it seems like a great place to live and raise a family (20 miles west of Minneapolis).
I wish them continued success in all they do. Honest, nice people working there.
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Also, because they are located in my home state (Minnesota). They have a modest size operation located in the handsome small town of Delano,MN.
Nice. I'm WI and didnt know their operation was so close. Lived in MN for 5 years. Good Folk. I've always liked the Envirohaze and find it to be the most effective dehazer I've used. That's all I've used from them. How does their reclaimer compare to Kiwo concentrate (if anyone's ever used it)? I used to use Franmar but since trying a Kiwo sample reclaiming is night and day.
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I use supra in my tank and 701 basically as a dehaze. Couple of sprays per side. Can do a lot of screens per gallon, but no clue how many. Definitely more than 40...lol
You doing a one step dip tank? Ink and emulsion? Just carding off ink or wiping it out with a rag or something?
Yes. Card off ink (and make sure the last print stroke on press clears the image area). Drop in the supra. Pressure wash off. Spray 701. Scrub. Rinse. Rack.
I pretty much copied what Evo suggested on the forums and while back and it works great. My supra tank lasts a long time, but I'm still at like 50 screens a week typically (lots of 1 to 3 color jobs).
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701 also works really good cleaning sq/floods same as a screen. spreay it on , scrub and blow with the pressure washer. Its a good alternative for saving the expense of safety clean and may work better depending on your flow, structure and budget.
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Also, because they are located in my home state (Minnesota). They have a modest size operation located in the handsome small town of Delano,MN.
How does their reclaimer compare to Kiwo concentrate (if anyone's ever used it)? I used to use Franmar but since trying a Kiwo sample reclaiming is night and day.
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... sorry, I can't offer a comparision to Franmar or Kiwo. I use their Easisolv 500, mixed 15:1 in a dip tank and I thinks it works great. When using a spray bottle, I mix it 10:1.
They state on their product cut sheet that it's the "lowest cost emulsion remover on the market" ( but, I wouldn't bet the farm on that).
https://www.easiway.com/easisolv-500-stencil-remover-concentrate (https://www.easiway.com/easisolv-500-stencil-remover-concentrate)
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701 also works really good cleaning sq/floods same as a screen. spreay it on , scrub and blow with the pressure washer. Its a good alternative for saving the expense of safety clean and may work better depending on your flow, structure and budget.
Yep, we run it in our shurlock squeegee cleaner.
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We have a Shurlock squeegee washer upstairs TP had bought but the have never used it since my tenure here in fact its dirty and used. If you want it cheap shoot me a offer. This a opportunity for you to have dueling Shurlock washers side by side. Imagine the youtube possibilities lol
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Aaaaahhhhhh...........The Brade Runna!!!!
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We have a Shurlock squeegee washer upstairs TP had bought but the have never used it since my tenure here in fact its dirty and used. If you want it cheap shoot me a offer. This a opportunity for you to have dueling Shurlock washers side by side. Imagine the youtube possibilities lol
What's your process for them... Wait you guys are just about all water base... Probably not the same problems.
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I use supra in my tank and 701 basically as a dehaze. Couple of sprays per side. Can do a lot of screens per gallon, but no clue how many. Definitely more than 40...lol
You doing a one step dip tank? Ink and emulsion? Just carding off ink or wiping it out with a rag or something?
Yes. Card off ink (and make sure the last print stroke on press clears the image area). Drop in the supra. Pressure wash off. Spray 701. Scrub. Rinse. Rack.
I pretty much copied what Evo suggested on the forums and while back and it works great. My supra tank lasts a long time, but I'm still at like 50 screens a week typically (lots of 1 to 3 color jobs).
Thanks to mimosa's past posts on this, I finally started the same method this summer. Thus far, it's working well. Definitely speeds up my reclaim. (The one thing I've noticed is that you definitely want to make sure all globs of ink are gone before you hit the tank. They won't magically go away, and you'll end up spraying them around the washout booth with the pressure sprayer.)
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Aaaaahhhhhh...........The Brade Runna!!!!
TP- Does it work? It's dirty but everyone says they never used it.. OH, it has been used? Sounds like a good addition to your J&J list of state of the atr equipment.
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definitely want to get the ink off as much as possible as mentioned. If you run a clearing print stroke as the last stroke on your screen, carding the ink should be quick and easy as it should just be around the edges of the screen. I can usually have all the ink off in a matter or seconds be doing a sort of "L" along the top and one side, then the other side so all the ink is at the bottom, then just card, card, card, and all the ink is scooped off. maybe a quick once over around where the ink meets the edge of your tape, then de-tape and it's ready to go.
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Aaaaahhhhhh...........The Brade Runna!!!!
TP- Does it work? It's dirty but everyone says they never used it.. OH, it has been used? Sounds like a good addition to your J&J list of state of the atr equipment.
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It works/worked. Air only no electric. You can tell that its messy. Slings ink everywhere. We have a self contained one here. Hand crank. Better but not awesome. Since our squeegees have no bolts etc. they actually clean quicker by hand