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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Flash Ink on June 05, 2018, 12:46:58 PM

Title: Scale for inks
Post by: Flash Ink on June 05, 2018, 12:46:58 PM
What are you guys using for scales and where did you get them. The scales that I see out there vary so much, but if I have to spend 2K on a scale then so be it.
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: Frog on June 05, 2018, 02:11:02 PM
Seems to me that this just came up. (as well as a couple of years ago)

Here's the old thread http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,18845.msg178162.html#msg178162 (http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,18845.msg178162.html#msg178162)

And, here's the one from a month ago http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,22405.0.html (http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,22405.0.html)
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: tonypep on June 05, 2018, 03:36:09 PM
Sartorious is a good consideration
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: alan802 on June 05, 2018, 04:02:08 PM
I got this one a few years ago.  Works really good.

https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1650/Counting-Scales/Uline-Easy-Count-Scale-30-lbs-x-001-lb?pricode=WA9255&gadtype=pla&id=H-1650&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgJv3jai92wIVT7jACh2mRA6sEAQYBSABEgJsAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1650/Counting-Scales/Uline-Easy-Count-Scale-30-lbs-x-001-lb?pricode=WA9255&gadtype=pla&id=H-1650&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgJv3jai92wIVT7jACh2mRA6sEAQYBSABEgJsAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: mooseman on June 06, 2018, 04:17:33 AM
check out postal scales on amazon there are a ton (no punn) to choose from
mooseman
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: 3Deep on June 06, 2018, 09:53:00 AM
I use an old cheap scale I bought from Wal-mart and it ain't worth a dang, it weights fine but if you let it sit for to long it will go off which I hate.  Gonna take a look at those on Amazon....
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: Frog on June 06, 2018, 09:54:39 AM
check out postal scales on amazon there are a ton (no punn) to choose from
mooseman

Most postal scales do not need to have a range low enough for mixing small amounts, especially when using pigment systems.
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: tonypep on June 06, 2018, 12:29:55 PM
Emphatically agree, especially if you are PC/Base
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: Logowear on June 06, 2018, 03:36:33 PM
I went with the Ohaus Scout Pro SJX Series NTEP, Legal For Trade Scale 1500 gram Accuracy 0.01 gram.
Been using it for 3 month without any problems.
Purchased it from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5FT78Z/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5FT78Z/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: mooseman on June 06, 2018, 07:56:07 PM
check out postal scales on amazon there are a ton (no punn) to choose from
mooseman

Most postal scales do not need to have a range low enough for mixing small amounts, especially when using pigment systems.

I have one of these,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W7IOV4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W7IOV4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I do not mix inks but it starts at .01 lbs (4.5 grams) but there are others that are finer tuned.
mooseman
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: Frog on June 06, 2018, 08:57:25 PM
check out postal scales on amazon there are a ton (no punn) to choose from
mooseman

Most postal scales do not need to have a range low enough for mixing small amounts, especially when using pigment systems.


I have one of these,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W7IOV4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W7IOV4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I do not mix inks but it starts at .01 lbs (4.5 grams) but there are others that are finer tuned.
mooseman

I use an RFU system and still often need to measure components in tenths of grams. What you have may work for many gallon mixes, but forget the half cups I often mix for pocket prints.
Title: Re: Scale for inks
Post by: Rob Coleman on June 07, 2018, 12:25:42 PM
check out postal scales on amazon there are a ton (no punn) to choose from
mooseman

Most postal scales do not need to have a range low enough for mixing small amounts, especially when using pigment systems.

This right here ... truth.  Also consider this in case you use or ever want to use water base inks:  plastisol base to pigment ratio is generally 70-80% Base material.  That means if I am weighing 1000 grams (stirrable quart), then up to 800 grams is base; the balance is spread across 2-4 pigments.  With water base, the base loading could be 88-98%, so at 5% pigment for example, that same 1000 gram batch now consists of just 50 grams of pigment spread over 2-4 pigments. 

The point is the less you make, the harder it is to be accurate.  To put this in perspective, if you are weighing 1.0 grams on a scale that has 0.1 gram accuracy, then any weight from 0.5 to 1.4 will read as 1.0.  THat is a whopping 0.9 variance!  Imagine trying to be CPR - consistent, predictable, repeatable with this variance!