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Title: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Mr Tees!! on April 18, 2022, 11:26:26 AM
Hey gang!

I think my 3880 may have finally crapped the bed. What are the folks here using for films? We are not ready for dts or laser yet, so that's out. Looking for something 17" wide, larger is okay but I'd get limited use out of it . Also hoping for something with refillable ink carts. We currently use Accurip for the RIP, but haven't been thrilled with that lately and would consider something different for that too if its easy and relaible.

Thanks all!!!!
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Raw Paw on April 18, 2022, 03:25:59 PM
Our Epson P400 recently stopped working.  We got a Canon Pixma to hold us over until the Epson T3270 could be shipped.  Pixma can go 13x19.  Epson can hold rolls 17" and 24."  Those were on backorder and we finally got ours in a couple weeks ago after waiting a few months.  Got Filmmaker as a Rip.  Had to also purchase a PC laptop, because Filmmaker is PC only.  Accurip doesn't work on the T3270 from what I remember, and is a monthly subscription.

Buying and setting up new film printers is a pain.  They keep getting more expensive and my separation process keeps getting more complicated.  We absolutely needed the help of a tech to make sense of Filmmaker, what a clunky software
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: blue moon on April 18, 2022, 09:38:56 PM
If you can find an EPSON 4880 they are worth purchasing. Should be able to get 5 years out of one in semi decent shape. They are getting old by now and I would imagine there will be some plastic deterioration going on.
Still, great bang for the buck if you can find one.

pierre
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: cbjamel on April 19, 2022, 11:21:55 AM
I have used filmmaker for years. I also have t3270 2 ink 3 cleaning carts. printer I love. the refillable carts not so much. buy the 700ml of all last long time over a year depending on size prints and how much solid area. I am using ink and cleaning solution from filmdirectonline.com I didn't buy there refillable probably should have.
Shane

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Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Sbrem on April 19, 2022, 11:58:50 AM
I'll second the T3270, ours is about 4-1/2 years old, and has been, with one exception that was easily solved, a workhorse for us.

Steve
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: balloonguy on April 20, 2022, 03:07:01 PM
This is very timely. I am running a VERY old oyo tech styler. It is years past support and finally starting to make me worry. I was thinking of the t3270 as a back up/replacement. Can I confirm that this is the same one you have? https://estore.lawsonsp.com/collections/screen-printing-film-printers/products/epson-surecolor-t-series-printers
Thanks.
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Sbrem on April 21, 2022, 09:28:43 AM
This is very timely. I am running a VERY old oyo tech styler. It is years past support and finally starting to make me worry. I was thinking of the t3270 as a back up/replacement. Can I confirm that this is the same one you have? https://estore.lawsonsp.com/collections/screen-printing-film-printers/products/epson-surecolor-t-series-printers
Thanks.

Yep, that's it...

Steve
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: farmboygraphics on April 21, 2022, 12:22:15 PM
I've been using the T3270 for close to 4 years and am very happy with it. I run Epson inks, I've never been a fan of any aftermarket items. Been running Accurip since I got it (before a subscription was needed) and am happy with that also.
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: cbjamel on April 21, 2022, 12:23:47 PM
I use cadlink XL uses fast rip prior  same software with updates.
Shane

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Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Gabe on April 25, 2022, 01:16:51 PM
We’re going thru the same trouble every two or three years. Looking at CTS we know is pricey but overtime it’ll pay for itself. The truth is, your are considered a Neanderthal this days if you still using film.
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Sbrem on April 25, 2022, 03:13:39 PM
We’re going thru the same trouble every two or three years. Looking at CTS we know is pricey but overtime it’ll pay for itself. The truth is, your are considered a Neanderthal this days if you still using film.

So, WTF would I care if someone thinks I'm a neanderthal? I've been producing films since 1972, and they work every single time. That being said, CTS is pretty cool, if you need it.

Steve
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Homer on April 25, 2022, 04:28:00 PM
We’re going thru the same trouble every two or three years. Looking at CTS we know is pricey but overtime it’ll pay for itself. The truth is, your are considered a Neanderthal this days if you still using film.

So, WTF would I care if someone thinks I'm a neanderthal? I've been producing films since 1972, and they work every single time. That being said, CTS is pretty cool, if you need it.

Steve

right, it's also easier to throw the printer down the hallway when the time comes. Little harder and more costly with the DTS... ;D

also, I recall film getting you a better dot than most dts systems...I think Pierre went back to film because of that, but I may be mistaken though....

on a side note, I'd quit and sell shrimp out of a van if I had to go back to film...
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: 3Deep on April 25, 2022, 05:54:32 PM
I have used filmmaker for years. I also have t3270 2 ink 3 cleaning carts. printer I love. the refillable carts not so much. buy the 700ml of all last long time over a year depending on size prints and how much solid area. I am using ink and cleaning solution from filmdirectonline.com I didn't buy there refillable probably should have.
Shane

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been using Filmdirectonline for years now, ink, refillable carts and all
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: blue moon on April 25, 2022, 07:19:04 PM
We’re going thru the same trouble every two or three years. Looking at CTS we know is pricey but overtime it’ll pay for itself. The truth is, your are considered a Neanderthal this days if you still using film.

So, WTF would I care if someone thinks I'm a neanderthal? I've been producing films since 1972, and they work every single time. That being said, CTS is pretty cool, if you need it.

Steve

right, it's also easier to throw the printer down the hallway when the time comes. Little harder and more costly with the DTS... ;D

also, I recall film getting you a better dot than most dts systems...I think Pierre went back to film because of that, but I may be mistaken though....

on a side note, I'd quit and sell shrimp out of a van if I had to go back to film...

Went back to film because of CTS not working and being lazy instead of fixing it. BUT, FILM DOTS ARE SUPERIOR TO CTS!
How much, not sure that it can really be seen even with a loupe. If printing on paper, absolutely. On garments… no way!
Pierre
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Orion on April 25, 2022, 07:27:11 PM
We’re going thru the same trouble every two or three years. Looking at CTS we know is pricey but overtime it’ll pay for itself. The truth is, your are considered a Neanderthal this days if you still using film.

So, WTF would I care if someone thinks I'm a neanderthal? I've been producing films since 1972, and they work every single time. That being said, CTS is pretty cool, if you need it.

Steve

Neanderthal would be the Vert Cam and Diffusion Transfer processor.  ;D Cro-Magnon is hand cut lith film and pasted on halftones. ::)
Title: Re: Advice for a new film printer??
Post by: Maxie on April 26, 2022, 07:16:05 AM
I'd never go back to film, I hated dealing with those Epson printers.
Pierre might get better dots on film he's a great technician.
Most of us get better results with CTS, I'm sorry I didn't get one sooner.
I have no pinholes, don't deal with printing and sticking on film, redos are so easy.   No filed film, just drag the graphics into the CTS and off you go.
I have a Douthitt and their service is unbelievable.
Obviously cost is a consideration, I don't think CTS itself is cheaper than film.
What makes a big difference is the time saved with everything around it.