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Computers and Software => Raster and Vector Manipulation Programs, and How to Do Stuff in Them. => Topic started by: Prosperi-Tees on March 16, 2012, 07:43:24 PM

Title: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 16, 2012, 07:43:24 PM
It of course is saying it is compressed. How do you uncompress it?
Title: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Hegemone on March 16, 2012, 08:02:54 PM
I am not sure I understand and the is no linked file?
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Frog on March 16, 2012, 08:40:36 PM
I think that you need to open it in a version of Illy at least as recent as the one in which it was created.
Title: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Hegemone on March 16, 2012, 09:58:30 PM
That's not always the case. I have CS 3 and get a warning that the file was created in a newer version do you want to open. Some times there are little issues but not a compressing warning. I was thinking you wanted someone to open a file and see what was up. My bad.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: screenxpress on March 16, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
So.  Where is this file?
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 16, 2012, 11:34:04 PM
Sorry was at dinner with my wife celebrating our 3 year anniversary! I am stuffed!
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: royster13 on March 16, 2012, 11:48:02 PM
Whoever saved it did not embed the image it is supposed to have....
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 16, 2012, 11:51:00 PM
They also sent this PDF but I asked for an .ai file because the pdf contained a 44dpi bitmap assuming they knew what they were doing.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: royster13 on March 16, 2012, 11:58:58 PM
Was this supposed to be a "print ready" file?....
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Chadwick on March 16, 2012, 11:59:37 PM
Beat me to it..I'll look at the pdf.
I imported the file into PS. Greyscale 600dpi.
Looks like this, of course at 8 1/2 x 11.
It won't go into Corel cause of compression, and my ver of Illy is old as dirt.
* spelling
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 17, 2012, 12:04:05 AM
They are a drama class. I thought the teacher knew what he was doing but obviously not. And these people don't like paying art fees, ughhhh.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Chadwick on March 17, 2012, 12:08:16 AM
Well, I get worse crap everyday, multiple times.
The PDF is fine, but, I'm a bastard so I highlighted the best parts.
You should be able to import the pdf into whatever you want and edit it.
I used Corel, cause that's how I roll.
Here's a pic, with me scribblin on it.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: royster13 on March 17, 2012, 12:08:49 AM
What colour ink on what colour shirt?
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 17, 2012, 12:10:04 AM
Lol. White discharge on black shirts.
44 dpi, wow.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: screenxpress on March 17, 2012, 12:22:05 AM
I'm never surprised anymore. 

You tell someone you'd like a vector file and they put a raster image on a vector canvas and cannot understand why you can't print it. 

Come on, you're the printer.  "What could possibly be wrong?  I did what you asked for."

That file, not that it matters, was created in AI CS5.  Won't do the image any help even if you opened it in CS5.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 17, 2012, 12:24:13 AM
Well I will put it in their court, pay the art fee or I auto trace and print as is.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Chadwick on March 17, 2012, 12:35:38 AM
It doesn't really matter that the cat isn't vector.
In fact, often it's better to get a bitmap from someone who doesn't
know how to make a vector anyway. ( I speak truth here )

Take and crop the un-needed black out of the cat.
Convert it to a greyscale bitmap at 300dpi, applying anti-aliasing.
( you could spend a few minutes retouching the bitmap if you would )
Now grab what's left, and the text, and convert that to a greyscale at 300 dpi.
Invert the bitmap.
Output through your rip.
I'm assuming you can have tones with discharge?
if not convert it to 1 bit and things get nice and ugly...you'll need to tweak the image a bit more.

No one ever sends camera ready art.
It doesn't exist, unless it's from someone in the same field.
( btw, I send out camera ready art tyvm...hit print, done )
I've got as many winners from 'working graduates of design' as the joe publics.

Just gotta figure how to roll it into what you need to make it work.
Daily..
hahhahhahhaahhaaaa.
 ;)
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 17, 2012, 12:35:43 AM
Here is the trace in Corel. I bet they go for it.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: screenxpress on March 17, 2012, 12:43:02 AM
Not too bad.

Here's one for comparison from Inkscape -

Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 17, 2012, 12:47:45 AM
Thanks! I will post the outcome of this.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Chadwick on March 17, 2012, 04:39:51 AM
Why vectorize it though?
You have to invert it anyways, or, as it is, you can sit and click all the stray parts of white and still
have the big honking void ( which has no data in it ) of the black which you will have to fill anyways.
I must sound like a miserable old f*ck..what's a guy to do?
You need to isolate the white areas you are after.

No one answered my question yet...can you do tones with discharge on a per screen basis?
Or is it all still lame..?

Cheerz.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: jason-23 on March 17, 2012, 11:31:22 AM
i would have converted it into a monochrome bitmap myself.
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: screenxpress on March 17, 2012, 11:42:21 AM
I wasn't so much going for vector per se.  But when I enlarged that raster image, it got pretty pixilated to me.  I supposed you could apply a Gaussian blur to it, but taking to inkscape (or corel trace) would be my direction.

On the tones issue.  I pulled out one of my old ones that on the art had some tones and I could not detect a noticeable gradient.  My thought is that it does not come the same as on a sim process. 
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 17, 2012, 03:33:25 PM
i would have converted it into a monochrome bitmap myself.
How do you convert to a monochrome bitmap?
Title: Re: Could someone look into an .ai file for me?
Post by: Chadwick on March 20, 2012, 09:11:59 PM
On the tones issue.  I pulled out one of my old ones that on the art had some tones and I could not detect a noticeable gradient.  My thought is that it does not come the same as on a sim process.

Thank you, so I guess you can't do ( proper ) dots with discharge.
Although, for what it's used for I don't suppose you need to anyway.

A monochrome bitmap is 1 bit, or black and white.
To convert something vector, or a mix of stuff to monochrome,
grab it all and convert to bitmap > 1 bit ( up in the bitmap menu ).