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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: Prosperi-Tees on August 18, 2012, 05:44:05 PM

Title: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on August 18, 2012, 05:44:05 PM
Taken from Rutland website:
*Note to 100% Cotton users: 100% Cotton could have a ghost image appear if printed with low bleed
inks. NPT SF Low Bleed White is a low bleed ink and should not be printed on 100% Cotton. NPT SF
Low Bleed White is recommended for polyester/cotton blends.

Of course after I print about a thousand shirts I read the tech sheet. I have only used LB inks on all my 100% cotton and never heard of this.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: Frog on August 18, 2012, 05:58:25 PM
Shame on you Gerry. This has been discussed here!

just kidding (about the shame, not the previous threads and posts)

Here's one http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,3678.msg40026.html#msg40026

and another http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,2517.msg26951.html#msg26951
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on August 18, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
Thanks for the links. I will be bringing in both cotton and lb white from the streetfighter line so I dont have to ever deal with something like this.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: ScreenPrinter123 on August 18, 2012, 07:00:33 PM
Gerry,

With regard to the sf lb, if you haven't tried the Miami ink superior, I'd try a sample - very similar in cost and the opacity is night and day on a one hit. May want to give it a go if you havent already. My $.02.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: jasonl on August 18, 2012, 10:44:17 PM
I use Quick white for EVERY tshirt I print.  And have since Wilflex made it.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: JBLUE on August 18, 2012, 11:01:44 PM
I use Quick white for EVERY tshirt I print.  And have since Wilflex made it.

Same here.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: Socalfmf on August 19, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
if you guys like quick white try out NuWhite from Wilflex..it rocks...

sam
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: jasonl on August 19, 2012, 10:49:54 AM
i used nuwhite as it was my INK OF CHOICE, until quick white was introduced, and I like Quick better.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: alan802 on August 19, 2012, 07:22:51 PM
I've used them all, quite literally.  Quick is good, so is the SF, phoenix, etc., but the best bang for the buck has been the miami for us.  I've been through 10 gallons in the last 4 weeks and it's been great.  I keep a low bleed poly white in stock and the wilflex UB grey for those pesky bleeders.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: rmonks on August 20, 2012, 07:20:55 AM
I have bought and tried about half dozen different whites that have been recommended here and other places some were good, some ok, some NWS. I have about decided to mix them all in a five gallon bucket and see what I get. Now my 2 cents on the best white. Sonny (Printficient)'s White has been the most superior of all the whites I have used.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: mk162 on August 20, 2012, 07:53:12 AM
Xenon's white is good.  I seriously think it works best with a gas dryer though.  The people I've talked to that have problems with it have electric.  It does flash a little slower than I'd like.  I am testing SF white and so far I like it.  I might try Miami's next.  We'll see.  Price doesn't bother me on ink.  Performance does.  I will say OneStroke EJ Special White Auto was probably about the best white I've used.

Xenon white is probably about the best all around white for bleed resistance, cottons and so on. 
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: jasonl on August 20, 2012, 08:45:03 AM
where did u buy that SF?  and how much?
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: mk162 on August 20, 2012, 08:52:03 AM
T-squares/american niagra.  I think it was $205 for the 5.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: jasonl on August 20, 2012, 10:10:04 AM
free shipping?
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: mk162 on August 20, 2012, 10:11:21 AM
I think so, I can't remember, it was about a month ago.

I like wilflex, I just think their whites could be better. 
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on August 20, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
Taken from Rutland website:
*Note to 100% Cotton users: 100% Cotton could have a ghost image appear if printed with low bleed
inks. NPT SF Low Bleed White is a low bleed ink and should not be printed on 100% Cotton. NPT SF
Low Bleed White is recommended for polyester/cotton blends.

Of course after I print about a thousand shirts I read the tech sheet. I have only used LB inks on all my 100% cotton and never heard of this.
jerry in 30 years this has happened to me once and i have heard of this happening maybe 5 other times. you will be fine using just the streetfighter low bleed product in my opinion.
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on August 20, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
Taken from Rutland website:
*Note to 100% Cotton users: 100% Cotton could have a ghost image appear if printed with low bleed
inks. NPT SF Low Bleed White is a low bleed ink and should not be printed on 100% Cotton. NPT SF
Low Bleed White is recommended for polyester/cotton blends.

Of course after I print about a thousand shirts I read the tech sheet. I have only used LB inks on all my 100% cotton and never heard of this.
jerry in 30 years this has happened to me once and i have heard of this happening maybe 5 other times. you will be fine using just the streetfighter low bleed product in my opinion.
I figured I would as I have been using LB inks since I started and never had a problem. I just never seen it written as something that could happen, thanks
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: mk162 on August 20, 2012, 12:59:31 PM
it happened to us once...about 12 years ago on Hanes Beefy's of course.  PITA
Title: Re: Has this happened to anybody?
Post by: JBLUE on August 20, 2012, 02:31:25 PM
Taken from Rutland website:
*Note to 100% Cotton users: 100% Cotton could have a ghost image appear if printed with low bleed
inks. NPT SF Low Bleed White is a low bleed ink and should not be printed on 100% Cotton. NPT SF
Low Bleed White is recommended for polyester/cotton blends.

Of course after I print about a thousand shirts I read the tech sheet. I have only used LB inks on all my 100% cotton and never heard of this.
jerry in 30 years this has happened to me once and i have heard of this happening maybe 5 other times. you will be fine using just the streetfighter low bleed product in my opinion.
I figured I would as I have been using LB inks since I started and never had a problem. I just never seen it written as something that could happen, thanks

They are just covering their asses.