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screen printing => Newbie => Topic started by: JackThrasher on December 27, 2013, 02:50:27 PM

Title: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: JackThrasher on December 27, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
I have been working with the Rutland M3 mixing system for the last year and want to Move into water based and discharge. Any recommendations for quality Inks in those Categories?
Title: Re: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: brandon on December 27, 2013, 03:26:46 PM
Yup, Rutland.
Title: Re: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: TCT on December 27, 2013, 04:07:26 PM
We use the Rutland for white, but for everything else we use CCI bases and pigs. It works well for us, but it may be different for you if you are already using their Plastisol system I don't know.
Title: Re: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: head north on December 27, 2013, 05:03:14 PM
We use Rutland for white and Sericol Texcharge for everything else.
Title: Re: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: Colin on December 27, 2013, 10:45:58 PM
First real question is:  What kind of dryer do you have to cure your garments through?  How long is the chamber and how wide?
Title: Re: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: JackThrasher on December 28, 2013, 01:08:30 AM
My HomeBase (garage) shop, as of now I have an Infrared Flash Cure and that's it... I'm looking for a Small economic belt dryer though... just starting out.
Title: Re: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: GaryG on December 28, 2013, 12:06:18 PM
Ok for plastisol, but -long- economic or not so economic
dryer for water based system. All Mfg specs are all similar
in this regard for print longevity.

Look deep, older electric dryers are not so expensive.
May go from wall to wall, but essential if first post of thread is
to be achieved. Press on...
Title: Re: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: tpitman on March 20, 2014, 11:06:18 AM
I've got a small dryer and I confine waterbased jobs to either heart prints that I can fold the shirts down to get more on the slow-moving belt, or very short runs. It's pretty much the one impediment to doing a lot more waterbased stuff, but I simply don't have the room for a longer dryer.
Title: Re: Water Based Vs. Plastisol
Post by: Frog on March 20, 2014, 11:15:48 AM
While Jackthrasher's flash unit will never make it at production levels for any type of ink, those with conventional electric belt dryers who wish to try water based inks may want to look into additives which speed curing like Matsui's Fixer. Rutland probably has something similar.

Heck, 20 years ago, I used some Union water based inks that with a catalyst additive would even air dry if one had no dryer.