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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Screened Gear on August 02, 2011, 04:20:55 AM
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I am looking to upgrade my print size and I am wondering what everyone else is doing.
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17"x19" but it was only for my retail line......none of our clients need anything that large. If they did we would charge a premium for the larger screens etc.
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We print up to 15x17 as our standard print area. The press will do 15x23 with the current pallets we have and we up charge for that. We will at some point get wider pallets so we can do say 20x23.
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We typically print 14x17 but have printed orders for larger sizes but not as often as in the past.
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I usually will offer 14" wide as our max. I chose 13 up top since that is more common than 14 for us.
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16x18 for us. My press came with an odd size of pallets that are 17x20. My press prints from the center of the machine out so I can still get about 19" tall if I want to push it. We have a setup that we built for the manual to do almost 28 tall by 18 wide. Built it for an MMA job. Its a definite upcharge for that.
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15x18 standard, 18x21 jumbo.
Printed some shirts from top to bottom a few weeks ago, manually.
Pictures when they get this contest rolling...
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15x18 is our standard and we up charge for "jumbo" and then up charge again for "all over".
That standard size is way more than enough for most clients.
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13 x 18 standard
16 x 20 upcharged
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12x13 standard we can print up to 16x16 if we needed to
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I am amazed.. I figured there would have been alot more people printing larger for their standard sizes... This may make me rethink what I want to do. I was going to get 4 inch sleeves, 12 inch pallets for youth and womens (when needed) then get 20 inch wide for all the trendy clothing line guys. My 16 inches would fill in the normal stuff. The reason I picked those sizes was they are 4 inches away from each other. This is a work in process to get all of them I may just start with 6 of each that I need.
Ok Another question. Do you print with a 4 inch squeegee on a 4 inch pallet? Can you use a larger squeegee and not hurt the blade? What do you do?
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16 inches wide puts the print in the armpits when worn and looks very stupid... I dont know why fashion lines print so huge. I tell my customers that 13 is plenty wide. Nothing like plastisol in your arm pits (gross).
Thankfully the allover trend is dying. I've only been asked once in the last year or so.
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The allover trend is dying? What am I going to do with all of those brand new shirts I bought at TJ Max? Crap, now I need a new wardrobe.
Actually, I am glad it's dying, ugliest crap ever. 13 inches wide for a front print is still darn big. I will sometimes go that big on a back print. Most of my stuff is standard left chest and full back. Some designs we do under the sleeve by the hem.
We've been printing the piss out of pockets the last year. The college kids are all about some pocket tees.
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Actually many people do not nor ever have figured out how to design for allover prints in a way that they don't look stupid when worn. Designers get so wrapped up the large format they want to use every inch they can. Which is why you often see the image abruptly stop at the shoulders and side seams. Looks cool on the rack but kind of silly when its worn. It's best to dither, in some form or fashion,
the graphic as it approaches the image limits. IMO allover work looks good, when done right, on womens and kids but on grown men?
I think I have some pieces in the gallery here (vintage motorcycle and surf girl/burlesque) that are for men and women that have an all over feel without going gonzo. Best......they were all done with standard pallets/ screens etc, and some spray techniques give them a sort of organic look. Maybe one of the guys can attach. My computer has some glitch where it won't let me post pics. We're working on it.
Anyway I wouldn't rush out and buy that $200,000 belt printer just yet.
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Anyway I wouldn't rush out and buy that $200,000 belt printer just yet.
There are many ways to accomplish AOP without a significant investment. We are continuing to concentrate in this area because we are still seeing many orders for them. This is an area that we have really pushed the limits in for many years. We got a bit carried away a couple of years ago and developed some really far-out systems. I think we muddied the water a bit by offering too many options. We'll keep the ideas coming - but sometimes we're surprised by what's a hit and what isn't. I was certain that the all-over-wrap around - flip - side shifting - reversible -pallet with the built on stereo was going to be a hit. - We're keeping things a bit more simplified now.
I would say that while the sales for AOP Pallets isn't what it was in 2009-2010 - we attribute this change to a general lack of character & testicular fortitude of our elected government.
Tony - please give a handshake to Joe for me. :)
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The allover trend is dying? What am I going to do with all of those brand new shirts I bought at TJ Max? Crap, now I need a new wardrobe.
Actually, I am glad it's dying, ugliest crap ever. 13 inches wide for a front print is still darn big. I will sometimes go that big on a back print. Most of my stuff is standard left chest and full back. Some designs we do under the sleeve by the hem.
We've been printing the piss out of pockets the last year. The college kids are all about some pocket tees.
Good proof that a trend is dying is when all the discount stores and walmart has them for sale. I'll keep the "pocket" tee idea in mind though... I print for a few colleges here.
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I will say hi to your Dad. Remember when I was trying to get you to build a one color allover manual? I'm telling you I was red hot sold that it could take off. Thing is most of that stuff is truly for retail not for the average Ad Specialty so it probably wouldn't have. Vastex ended making one....might have been a prototype but Jeff Proctor had it at last years ATL ISS.
At any rate your wisdom prevailed over my enthusiasm.
best tp
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I will say hi to your Dad. Remember when I was trying to get you to build a one color allover manual? I'm telling you I was red hot sold that it could take off. Thing is most of that stuff is truly for retail not for the average Ad Specialty so it probably wouldn't have. Vastex ended making one....might have been a prototype but Jeff Proctor had it at last years ATL ISS.
At any rate your wisdom prevailed over my enthusiasm.
best tp
Pop says "Hi"
Re: One color AOP - Thanks as always for the ideas - please keep them coming. This is not one that we wish to pursue anytime soon. I believe that Ryonet offers something that works well for this purpose. It's called The Silver Press. I've seen it a few times at trade shows. For the price - it's a bargain. Under $1000 & was designed to be an inexpensive - table-top AOP press.
Tony - we supply various equipment manufacturers. It is my belief that we should avoid competing with our customers. We're way overdue for beer & billiards.