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Title: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: DCSP John on January 22, 2014, 10:52:49 AM
Hello Everyone..

I have a customer who wants a Class of 2014 print with the student's signatures inside of the 'knocked out' space
of the '2014' text... 

Not sure where to begin with this - A template created and sent to the customer seems to be the logical step..
Students sign, and then I scan hi res for printing?

Anyone done this before? Handwritten student names in a template?

Any feedback would be great.

V/r - John
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: ole jobe on January 22, 2014, 10:58:03 AM
The problem I have had with signing on a template is that the names will often run together. Can't do anything about that but it doesn't look good. Having them sign on  a blank paper and scanning then placing of numbers is time consuming, but looks much better. God Bless
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: cleveprint on January 22, 2014, 10:59:51 AM
thats exactly what we do. we have a cardboard box from old vellums that we reuse to send the template in as well. we also send along a fine point sharpie so that every signature is signed with the same pen and is hopefully dark.
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Frog on January 22, 2014, 11:05:06 AM
I, like ole jobe, have always dealt with each signature separately, but have never done a huge class, just baseball teams.

This is usually with younger kids who have a habit of really coming up with a variety of sizes, and one kid can really mess up the entire design.
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: whitewater on January 22, 2014, 12:24:46 PM
we do this all the time.. Give them a template of each number 8.5x11..then i tell them to use one of those fine point black sharpies ave them sin inside. Then I scan hi resolution then throw it in vector  magic then take care of any greys that are there..then i can put it in illy and resize and whatever we need to do.. Works like a charm.!

Rob
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Gilligan on January 22, 2014, 12:43:55 PM
Fine point or ULTRA fine point?

"Standard" sharpie is "fine point".
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Sbrem on January 22, 2014, 01:19:08 PM
We send a template on paper, and give them a good black pen. And are given hard rules; no signing over the lines, and no writing over other names. We scan in at 300 ppi as a grayscale image (so we can make adjustments if necessary to a name that is light) and then convert to Bitmap mode; (I like to have the control that Photoshop gives me here; if the signatures are good, you can simply run a trace, but I don't like the way traces come out, so I don't) remove the border of the template so you can paste the names into the original vector template you made, or just import the whole thing, border and all, into Illustrator, at least that's how we do it. I imagine it's pretty much the same in Corel Draw.

Steve
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: DCSP John on January 22, 2014, 01:43:19 PM
Thanks for the insight-
Sounds simple enough.

John
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: 3Deep on January 22, 2014, 02:46:29 PM
We just did this one for a school, and I had them sign there names on a blank sheet of typing paper in black ink...scan and placed each name no problem.

Darryl
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: royster13 on January 22, 2014, 02:52:42 PM
We just did this one for a school, and I had them sign there names on a blank sheet of typing paper in black ink...scan and placed each name no problem.

Darryl

Nice work!
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: whitewater on January 22, 2014, 02:54:17 PM
Fine point or ULTRA fine point?

"Standard" sharpie is "fine point".

ok..."ULTRA"

you know what i am talking about..LOL
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Squeegie on January 22, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
We have done it a few ways but the kids seem to go with something like this.

Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Frog on January 22, 2014, 05:01:50 PM
We have done it a few ways but the kids seem to go with something like this.

The question would be if you gave them the template and they filled it, or did individually place the names?
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Ryan on January 22, 2014, 05:02:54 PM
I've always printed out the actual film to the size that its going to be and have them sign the film with certain stipulations, like don't right outside the number etc. and just burn the film after I get it back
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: chubsetc on January 22, 2014, 06:01:30 PM
I have done both the single names signed on a blank paper and given the template.  The template is the easiest and least time consuming for us, but the individually placed names can look really good if you take the time, but it can take a loooooong time if there are a lot of names.
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: TCT on January 22, 2014, 10:05:44 PM
We just did this one for a school, and I had them sign there names on a blank sheet of typing paper in black ink...scan and placed each name no problem.

Darryl

Very nice!
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Squeegie on January 23, 2014, 09:13:51 AM
Quote
The question would be if you gave them the template and they filled it, or did individually place the names?

Sorry...forgot to add that info.

We printed a pc of paper with the template on it.  Scanned and adjusted in PS and placed it in the file.
Easy peasy!
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Boldline on May 01, 2014, 01:17:47 AM
If you are looking to do computer font names, I would create a text box in the shape of the larger number/letter and then paste the names in using the "area type tool". If you are going the handwritten route, I always printed out the number/letter template out at full size on regular paper and asked them not to let the names touch the edges as they wrote. Then I'd scan the signed paper into photoshop and move names around via cut and paste to be sure they all fit evenly. Then I'd export it as a bitmap file at 800 pixels/inch using the 50% Threshold method. Save it as a bitmap file and place it into Illustrator and scale and color it as necessary. Only downside to bitmap solution is that names cannot be adjusted individually in the bitmap... it would require going back to the photoshop file and editing it there and then reproducing the edited bitmap. Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: mooseman on May 01, 2014, 06:41:06 AM
we do not do a lot of these but one tip that may help is to template up the design on paper like many have said BUT use photo quality paper, ( we have a pack of Epson photo paper) the paper allows for deep color and super crisp sharpie stains that look like doctor's signatures.

mooseman
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Sbrem on May 01, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
We also use a higher quality paper, it just looks better.

Steve
Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Boldline on May 17, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
One of the best reasons to go this route instead of typing in names or copying in a list of names from the client is that if a name is missing or misspelled, its not your fault as the designer/printer! They chose to write it as they did! - I do remember though often having to go in and open up closed letters at times because I knew they'd fill in when printed and the customer would notice and complain!


Mat Woodworth
www.boldlinedesign.com

Title: Re: Hand written student names inside '2014' template....
Post by: Grumpy Ole Artist on May 22, 2014, 01:46:59 PM
We do a lot of them...we are a "vellum" shop...I provide client a stapled sandwich consisting of an 11"x17" piece of vellum pack backer cardboard, a grayscale copy of art at final size, and blank vellum on top for the kids to sign. used to provide scrapbooking lightsafe pens, (nice even Black signatures) got sick of them not coming back, or ruined if they did...Client can use what ever they want..I tell them to use a sharpie...Instruct to sign inside design...Scan into p-shop at (at least) 400 lpi...Any signatures that are obviously too light to work properly, I will usually take my "burn" tool, and darken them up...If too small to hold detail, I will cut/paste/scale as needed...make B/W tiff...no need to trace...pop into Corel, scale, and, voila!