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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: garagewear on August 04, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
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So I am a software engineer by day and fledgling printer by night. I see this new OS and that Anatol has and see that they have made good use of a tough screen display to reduce the number of switches and buttons to fail. I am curious if the new system doesn't use a PLC what hardware (mini PC?) and IO (PAC?) are being used?
Bill
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Great question. I'll try to find out tomorow for ya.
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Hey Spot,
What did you find out?
B
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Hey Spot,
What did you find out?
B
I found out I forgot...lol :-[
I gotta get a delivery date monday morning... Putting a reminder in my phone now..
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Just talked to paul with Anatol. Aries is Windows based.
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So is it a PAC or a PC with propritary io boards?
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What is a pac :o
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Programmable Automation Controller. It has a PC on board.
A PLC is a Programmable Logic Controller.
A bridge is a connection between a PC and a PLC (or PAC). Great way to connect a touch screen.
While a PLC and a PAC are both computers a PAC is Linux or Windows based where a PLC is a very thin OS with a small instruction set.
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Hmmmmm.... I’m pretty sure they are still PCB based (Programmable Circuit board, or programmable control board... ???). A PAC may be the same thing, but I’m not sure. I know they are not controlled by PLC's tho. If there is a PC on board I bet it is in the touch screen, but again I’m not sure..... :-\
You have given me plenty of stuff to bug Paul about ;D
I’ll let u know what I find out.
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Just talked to paul with Anatol. Aries is Windows based.
really? windows? I would think linux like mhm uses would be the way to go. Lightweight and no licensing fees.
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Hey Spot. Can you snap some pictures of this OS and PLC? I don't think I can make it to Atlanta.
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I would suggest any pics of this is kept private or in a member only section something like that will end up on another forum and be criticized for some god knows reason.
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well, it is OUTDATED technology. ;)
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Hey Spot. Can you snap some pictures of this OS and PLC? I don't think I can make it to Atlanta.
I have pictures of the OS on my site...
http://www.spotcolorsupply.com/Anatol_Aries_OS.html (http://www.spotcolorsupply.com/Anatol_Aries_OS.html)
I am pretty sure they are not PLC based (No other Anatols are)... They Titan we will have at the show should have 3 circuit boards in different locations, if they haven’t changed them too drastically.
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I would suggest any pics of this is kept private or in a member only section something like that will end up on another forum and be criticized for some god knows reason.
Yeah, you are prolly right about that. What sections are members only?
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I have seen all of the control panel stuff. I am curious how they do the i/o? I didn't know if it was some off the shelf system or a custom i/o board. Don't post anything on the site that is propritary. I don't want to get myself or anyone else in trouble for that matter. I didn't mean to make a big deal out of this.
For what it is worth I am working on a retrofit PLC for the Javelin. I started with a DirectLogic PLC and have some of it working. I started thinking the touch screen was cool and one thing has lead to another and now I have a nettop pc powering a 3M Touchstone touchscreen monitor. I can connect that to the PLC and eliminate my old analog control panel. The more I look at it I think with the right i/o board I can control everything from the pc itself and eliminate the PLC. To make this perfectly clear I am not intending to copy Anatol or any other manufacturer for that matter.
I am currently looking at possibly using something like this:
(http://www.pc-control.co.uk/images/digibee.jpg)
Bill
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I got the touch screen drivers working on Windows. Now going to try on the nettop with Linux
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Do you think you can upgrade to that interface from the 6 month old Titian?
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The user interface can be configured to look like anything. That is actually the easy part. The control will be the more difficult. Once I get it done it should be able to be configured for any older press that uses a PLC. Mine is a 6/8 but since it is configurable I will just have to rearrange the interface to add more heads. The i/o ports and control will be configurable too. Once I have it running on mine I will be looking for someone with a 10/12 (maybe a M&R) to upgrade!
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Is the Titan all air? Does it use MAC valves?
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I have seen all of the control panel stuff. I am curious how they do the i/o? I didn't know if it was some off the shelf system or a custom i/o board. Don't post anything on the site that is propritary. I don't want to get myself or anyone else in trouble for that matter. I didn't mean to make a big deal out of this.
You have sparked my curiosity for sure. I’ll try to get you some pics next week. They just look like circuit boards to me :D
If it means anything to you they all have PCB## printed on them, and they do look a bit different than the pic you posted. Much more stuff on them..?
For what it is worth I am working on a retrofit PLC for the Javelin. I started with a DirectLogic PLC and have some of it working. I started thinking the touch screen was cool and one thing has lead to another and now I have a nettop pc powering a 3M Touchstone touchscreen monitor. I can connect that to the PLC and eliminate my old analog control panel. The more I look at it I think with the right i/o board I can control everything from the pc itself and eliminate the PLC. To make this perfectly clear I am not intending to copy Anatol or any other manufacturer for that matter.
I am currently looking at possibly using something like this:
([url]http://www.pc-control.co.uk/images/digibee.jpg[/url])
Bill
Wow... :o
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So what did you find out about the controller? Anything fancy?
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The machine got switched to a 6/8 standard Titan at the last minute...
Turns out a customer needed our original show machine more than we did.... :'(
So sadly no... I didn’t get to see one in person.
When I finally lay hands on one, I will be sure to let you know what I find out.