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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: screenprintguy on February 20, 2014, 01:38:18 PM
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Never seen one of these before, pretty cool, found this shop's shop tour video on youtube and low and behold, spotted the side clamp screen holders on the Gauntlet. The press is 30 seconds into the vid if you didn't want to watch the whole tour. Pretty cool.
Geri's Screenprinting Tour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGL1cjMh_GQ#ws)
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I love side clamps. The only reason I think the front/rear is a better option is for those shops who need to do jumbo or oversized printing. It's hard to see how the micro system is set up. I know it's always a hot debate with front versus side and I've had both and much prefer the sides. We don't do any jumbo or oversized stuff and I don't plan on starting. A press that doesn't have side clamps as an option is not a deal breaker for our next machine but if at all possible I'd love to have side clamps.
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I like side clamps too, I know when I bought our press we had the option of front/back or side clamps I pick side, the only thing that I hate about my side clamp is you have to unclamp one side to adjust reggi and then air clamp back down, sometimes it moves..this is on an Anatol.
Darryl
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Get you some MHM style screen holders and then decide on front/back...
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like has been pointed out, we use too many different sized frames to not use front back clamps, sides just wouldnt get it done. for someone who is using a standard screen size for everything it wouldnt be such a big deal, but yeah for oversize and jumbo print stuff sides just wont do it.
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all we are used to is side clamps, so I wouldn't know if front rear are better, for some reason though, I think front rear looks like it could be better, at least from the side clamping on our DB which is a tad bit different from what I see on this press. The reason I put the video up is a couple things. 1, thought it was cool to spot this press in action, I've heard about it, that this press is where the DB's idea came from, second, to point out, from comments made by a certain guy who was always claiming that the DB was a copy of a rhino, obviously, not only did M&R make air machines way back, they also obviously already had side clamping autos as well. At any rate, I'm just a gear head who thinks all these different presses are cool in their own ways and like to share something different that I figure other's hadn't seen.
Now as ebscreen was saying, the pin system does look like it is probably superior to any other mounting system as it's obviously screens dead on every time, as long as the imaging is done right, more than likely faster in setting up than any other way. But, I've been curious to guys using MHM and now S-Roques with Pins, do your screens actually have pins sticking out of them now, or are there holes in the frames for pins on the press? Curious as if there are pins on the frames themselves, how does that work out in reclaiming, or if holes, do the hole get gunked up with goo from dip tanks ect, just curious, totally off topic, but that's how this business rolls right, lol.
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and how the hell did they get a Tacana on that Gauntletback? I was told it was impossible when I got my DB.
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and how the hell did they get a Tacana on that Gauntletback? I was told it was impossible when I got my DB.
hahahah Dude, you called it a Gauntletback!!! That is classic!!!
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and how the hell did they get a Tacana on that Gauntletback? I was told it was impossible when I got my DB.
I've tried to fit a tacana on a diamondback, doesn't work without the floor stand. This G-back has got to have more distance from the frame holders to the bottom of the tube.
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as soon as I saw the Xante screen writer I almost spit out my coffee from laughing.
thanks for the "back in time" presentation.
The press.. it's an international model, notice the light blue paint on the heads.
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as soon as I saw the Xante screen writer I almost spit out my coffee from laughing.
thanks for the "back in time" presentation.
The press.. it's an international model, notice the light blue paint on the heads.
Its actually a 2005 Gauntlet RS air machine. We made them in that color scheme back then for domestic and International. Side screen holders were a N.C. option.
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I had a 2003 sportsman in that color.
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Am I the only one that caught the double stacked shirt going through the dryer!????
Now as ebscreen was saying, the pin system does look like it is probably superior to any other mounting system as it's obviously screens dead on every time, as long as the imaging is done right, more than likely faster in setting up than any other way. But, I've been curious to guys using MHM and now S-Roques with Pins, do your screens actually have pins sticking out of them now, or are there holes in the frames for pins on the press? Curious as if there are pins on the frames themselves, how does that work out in reclaiming, or if holes, do the hole get gunked up with goo from dip tanks ect, just curious, totally off topic, but that's how this business rolls right, lol.
The pin system for the S.Roque, if you use statics then yes you actually drill holes into the frame and attach the tabs with rivets. The rivets seal the hole so there really isn't a leak issue. For rollers you use a different tab and it kinda fits in like a washer. Here is a pic of the tabs on a roller. I'll have to see if I have a pic of the statics, if not I'll post one Monday.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/22/by6ahe7u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/22/muvu9ynu.jpg)
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I have a video showing the pins. I have no idea how to copy the link and post here from my phone. YouTube user ryangilmartin, there are only like 7-8 total videos but one is about the pins
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
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Pic with the tabs for statics-
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/24/unu7ajy8.jpg)
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I wonder why they have it working in two ways, one way on the newmans with tabs sticking out from the screen frame, and then on the static frame with holes for the pins on your press to poke into. I was looking at the video and can see how the pins on your machine actually could poke into those tabs you have on the static, but how do the pins on the newmans attach to the pins on the press? Do the pins on the press have notches or something. Just curious how it all works. ;D Thanks for posting the pics. Funny SRoque should have some of that on their site for some of us nerdy curious tech heads.
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I'll start up another thread tomorrow so we don't temple on this one. I'll put pics of how the two attach to the press and the PRU.
To bring the thread back on track, am I seriously the only one who caught the double stacked shirt going through the dryer!? :D
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I was more curious about the printed shirt he loaded on the press.
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DUDES!!! I was paying so much attention to the press I didn't notice, Alex, is right, there is a double stacked set of shirts going through there at 1:03 and Brian is right, the dude loads a printed shirt. Must have been a mock run just for the video.
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It's like that Trident on the one website I found and they were calling it a Gauntlet or a Challenger. 99.9% of people would never notice or know the difference. Us TSBers are cut from a different cloth, upper class if you will :D:D
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I wonder why they have it working in two ways, one way on the newmans with tabs sticking out from the screen frame,
Due to the roller bar.. you need to put the pins on the bolts ends so they won't rotate.
when you think about it..
Roller frames are the males who freak the screen printing world like a boss with their tabs sticking out.
Static frames require 'slots' or in real life terms.. statics are a bitch that give you nothing but grief.
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I wonder why they have it working in two ways, one way on the newmans with tabs sticking out from the screen frame,
Due to the roller bar.. you need to put the pins on the bolts ends so they won't rotate.
when you think about it..
Roller frames are the males who freak the screen printing world like a boss with their tabs sticking out.
Static frames require 'slots' or in real life terms.. statics are a bitch that give you nothing but grief.
We haven't had a good "retensionable versus static frame" debate in a while. Or roller frame versus static which is slightly different.
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I wonder why they have it working in two ways, one way on the newmans with tabs sticking out from the screen frame,
Due to the roller bar.. you need to put the pins on the bolts ends so they won't rotate.
when you think about it..
Roller frames are the males who freak the screen printing world like a boss with their tabs sticking out.
Static frames require 'slots' or in real life terms.. statics are a bitch that give you nothing but grief.
Leave it to John, lol, hahahahhaha