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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Parker 1 on February 25, 2014, 12:32:22 PM
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I am in need a Technician for my Anatol machine. (Stratus 8/10 all electric)
Press needs:
-complete machine Calibration
leveling screen holders, pallets etc....
-Centering all Bearings to the catch forks
-Replacing all proximity switches, help in ordering the correct replacement parts
-Trouble shoot electrical issues funky errors and such
The damn foot petal just quit working while I am typing this >:(
-Chopper cylinders do not work correctly
I do not have the time or want to take pictures of various parts and areas of my press and wait 3-5 days for a response that does absolutely nothing to help.
I am located in South MS
Chris
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Chris, if that much is wrong with the how in heck are you printing on it now? it sounds like a total rebuild or you just bought a used press that your want to refurb. Anatol don't have the techs in the field as another company we all know, but who else does LOL good luck and I'm sure you'll get it done.
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Chris, if that much is wrong with the how in heck are you printing on it now? it sounds like a total rebuild or you just bought a used press that your want to refurb. Anatol don't have the techs in the field as another company we all know, but who else does LOL good luck and I'm sure you'll get it done.
It runs like a pulpwood truck. Its working, just not very well. Bought the machine new in 07 its had nagging issues from day one.
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Brian Binkspot from the forum does tech work on Anatol's. I'd highly recommend giving him a shout.
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I would say Brian Binkspot as well or Shawn McPherson he is from up my way, 612-281-7532
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I bought ours new in 07 also, but it don't run like a pulpwood truck lol, maybe a VW bug...you got a lot of prints on it?
Darryl
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We are sorry you are having problems with your press ! We have techs that can help fix your problems.
Please feel free to call me personally and I would be happy to direct you to a good service person close to where you are.
We are here for all your needs and concerns. We always try to trouble shoot first over the telephone to save you the cost of a service call !
But when all else fails we are happy to recommend a good service rep to help you solve your issues
Thanks,
Terry Deaner
National Sales Manager
847-582-1717
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Thank you all for the quick response. I have a call into Brannon with Spot Color Supply now.
I would say Brian Binkspot as well or Shawn McPherson he is from up my way, 612-281-7532
Talked to Brian in LB, he offered to help any time and did a few years back and he never new it was me, Really stand-up guy just trying to find someone close to come in.
Alex, is Shawn the guy I was talking to at LB selling the LED exposure units?
I bought ours new in 07 also, but it don't run like a pulpwood truck lol, maybe a VW bug...you got a lot of prints on it?
Darryl
Darryl, my best guess is 800K+, hard to tell since the control panel has reset 3 times now due to a "glitch".
If I had a Blue, Green, Yellow, Light Green, Black or White machine it would just now be getting broke in. Oh yea it was installed in 09' not 07'.
Thanks to all for the help.
Chris
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Yes, Shawn is the guy behind those LED units. He is a good guy and I know he travels. BUT if I remember correctly Brian did buy us a few beers so I would give him first dibs! ;D
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We are sorry you are having problems with your press ! We have techs that can help fix your problems.
Please feel free to call me personally and I would be happy to direct you to a good service person close to where you are.
We are here for all your needs and concerns. We always try to trouble shoot first over the telephone to save you the cost of a service call !
But when all else fails we are happy to recommend a good service rep to help you solve your issues
Thanks,
Terry Deaner
National Sales Manager
847-582-1717
I'll call shortly for parts.
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OTS is also killer with knowing what parts you may need. Randy I think, theots.com (http://theots.com)
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I would be glad to help but you would be better off finding someone local you can call on. The cost of travel and time just getting to the job site can add up fast, often more then the cost of the repair.
I doubt Anatol has anyone local or for that matter own a map or globe, they referred me to a few people being the "Closest Tech" meaning at least a 10 hour drive each way.
If parts are not available from the factory I'm willing to bet OTS has them on the shelf. If its just prox switches and other common items they can be sourced locally.
Try Spotcolor, Brandon or Scott they used to be dealers and outside Atlanta. If they can't help you they may be able to point you in the right direction.
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Just ordered parts from Anatol, they had what was needed. The service tech Kamil (sorry for misspelling your name) was helpful in getting me the correct part(s).
Brannon at Spot Color is working travel times and such.
I normally call on OTS for tech support, Randy is the ANATOL guru and is a super nice guy.
Chris
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I got a name of a guy in FL here some where, if all else fails let me know and I'll get it to you. Also if there was any validity to the TAS/anatol service partnership you could even maybe call TAS America.
Good luck man, wish I could help I know how it can be!
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This is just sad...as usual. No time to help anybody until they say something in public? That says a lot about a company.
Hang in there man. When I was going through this I kept thinking "dear lord, what would this be like if it was an auto". I don't even want to imagine what you're going through.
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the rumors are true...we have joined an Alliance with May International, to sell and service Anatol Equipment.
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Good deal I hope you stay on the forum to answer questions that jump on every once in awhile.
Darryl
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Good deal I hope you stay on the forum to answer questions that jump on every once in awhile.
Darryl
Agreed! It would be nice to have another company represented here, but just don't leave after the first month that probably does more hurt than help....
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I'd like to think that their new alliance can only help. Here's hoping for a bright future.
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anyone seen one of these big monsters yet? Pegasus II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woDMzglYFiU#)
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The question is have they sold one yet? Looks like the video is in their warehouse.
The pallet arms look petty beefy though.
"Continuous indexing" looks a lot like regular servo indexing, what am I missing?
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That looks cool. I like the indexing at the heads.
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I like that too... I'm gonna add a dry index and index buttons to each head on my javelin. .. ;)
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Indexing system looks to be a belt drive witch requires an encoder, similar to the CIII, but with the table raising to the print heads. Watch and listen to the vid closely. It is not very smooth compared to CIII, MHM, or SR. Also with the table movement it will slow production down compared to the previous mentioned machines. Just my observations, maybe someone running this press will chime in.
Chris
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Also with the table movement it will slow production down compared to the previous mentioned machines.
Chris
Exactly.
I never realized that concept until we got a machine that didn't lift the table. It seems "far fetched" but I bet a press that does not lift the table prints between 12dz-18dz/hr more. The press is flooding while it is lifting the screen and indexing, multitasking.
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Verrrdee Interrresting!
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Your dead nuts on with the speed. The uppy downy press will never achieve the round and round speeds. The other advantage to the roundy roundly press is you eliminate what I believe to be the most wear on the machine, the up down motion of the pallets. Even though the traditional indexer has been eliminated you still need some sort of drive mechanism to engage the drive sprocket. I wonder if the belt is long enough to be able to change it if it were to break.
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I would be concerned with the bearings hitting the catch forks, due to encoder issues.
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Indexing system looks to be a belt drive witch requires an encoder, similar to the CIII, but with the table raising to the print heads. Watch and listen to the vid closely. It is not very smooth compared to CIII, MHM, or SR. Also with the table movement it will slow production down compared to the previous mentioned machines. Just my observations, maybe someone running this press will chime in.
Chris
I wouldn't take too much into the sound of the machine. It depends on the mic sensitivity used on the video more than the actual machine. When I video our RPM with my old iphone it sounds ridiculously loud but I know from being around a lot of other machines at shows and shops that it is far quieter than most every auto I've ever heard except the new Falcons, the MHM's and the Ch3, but that's about it.
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The uppy downy press will never achieve the round and round speeds. The other advantage to the roundy roundly press is you eliminate what I believe to be the most wear on the machine, the up down motion of the pallets.
Here is a sneak-peak video of Anatol's ALL-NEW "roundy-roundly" belt-driven automatic press.
Check out this link if you have a need for speed!
roundy-roundly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72hKFX5Zle4#)
Stay tuned for more info.
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Did somebody drop a wrench?
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That press looks pretty sweet. So it's obvious the table up and down presses are on their way out pretty quick!!!
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That press looks pretty sweet. So it's obvious the table up and down presses are on their way out pretty quick!!!
That's nothing new it's been around for years the old azz multi printers table didn't come up the print head went down..all the modern press's now that use this are designed way better and and no where as heavy as the older press's were, but here is my question what are the pros & cons of this.
1 will this type press take more air
2 central off contact vs each head contact adjustment
3 more air lines and possible air leaks to run down
Darryl
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That press looks pretty sweet. So it's obvious the table up and down presses are on their way out pretty quick!!!
Not at all. There will be both types for many years to come. That is for sure..
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That press looks pretty sweet. So it's obvious the table up and down presses are on their way out pretty quick!!!
That's nothing new it's been around for years the old azz multi printers table didn't come up the print head went down..all the modern press's now that use this are designed way better and and no where as heavy as the older press's were, but here is my question what are the pros & cons of this.
1 will this type press take more air
2 central off contact vs each head contact adjustment
3 more air lines and possible air leaks to run down
Darryl
I guess you are right D, I didn't think about those centurions and such. You bring up a good point about air consumption, pros/cons, and central off contact vs indi. I think central, and indi is pretty awesome. Looks like more table raise/lower using servos vs air lift might be coming in.
And I see Rich's point about table lift lower staying around. Talking with different printers and their needs/preferences, I've heard mixed desires. I know one guy most of us on this board know who although his business is growing super fast has no desire in a press where screens come down to the board, and prefers just moving up or adding presses with the conventional lift/lower carousel. I guess it all boils down to the individual's wants or needs. Personally, I and my wife like the idea of individual screen frames coming down to the pallet for a few reasons. It's just good to see the manufacturers stepping up to the plate and offering some new tech!!!
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This is just sad...as usual. No time to help anybody until they say something in public? That says a lot about a company.
Hang in there man. When I was going through this I kept thinking "dear lord, what would this be like if it was an auto". I don't even want to imagine what you're going through.
what?
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I am in need a Technician for my Anatol machine. (Stratus 8/10 all electric)
Press needs:
-complete machine Calibration
leveling screen holders, pallets etc....
-Centering all Bearings to the catch forks
-Replacing all proximity switches, help in ordering the correct replacement parts
-Trouble shoot electrical issues funky errors and such
The damn foot petal just quit working while I am typing this >:(
-Chopper cylinders do not work correctly
I do not have the time or want to take pictures of various parts and areas of my press and wait 3-5 days for a response that does absolutely nothing to help.
I am located in South MS
Chris
Last shop I worked at as a lead screen printer (in Mid South Alabama) also used Anatol equipment. 6/6 manual worked like a champ, but virtually all of the problems you listed, we constantly had with our automatic - a 10/12 Stratus II.
Controls on each of the heads quit working, cylinders always needed replacing, choppers not working properly (some getting uneven pressure, and see-sawing up, causing the squeegee to "walk" sideways into the screen frame, shocks on each head were constantly busting and leaking fluid everywhere, even though head speed was slow, air lines leaked inside the booms, No. 10 head hadn't worked since the machine was set up...just a laundry list of problems. We had a tech come and service it once, and within a month it was back to it's old rickety self again.
IMO, Anatol equipment leaves a lot to be desired. Another shop I worked at as a graphic artist used M&R automatic and WorkHorse manuals. Never a single problem.
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This is just sad...as usual. No time to help anybody until they say something in public? That says a lot about a company.
Hang in there man. When I was going through this I kept thinking "dear lord, what would this be like if it was an auto". I don't even want to imagine what you're going through.
what?
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Not sure what the question is exactly but my comment is in reference to the fact that, as demonstrated here and in many threads, the newer batches of these machines have many problems. It can take literally months to get even smaller issues resolved or parts ordered and often your problem will not be resolved and then enter this limbo stage of radio silence where it seems it never will. Post something publicly about it and all of the sudden parts can be had, problems can be solved.
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I am in need a Technician for my Anatol machine. (Stratus 8/10 all electric)
Press needs:
-complete machine Calibration
leveling screen holders, pallets etc....
-Centering all Bearings to the catch forks
-Replacing all proximity switches, help in ordering the correct replacement parts
-Trouble shoot electrical issues funky errors and such
The damn foot petal just quit working while I am typing this >:(
-Chopper cylinders do not work correctly
I do not have the time or want to take pictures of various parts and areas of my press and wait 3-5 days for a response that does absolutely nothing to help.
I am located in South MS
Chris
Last shop I worked at as a lead screen printer (in Mid South Alabama) also used Anatol equipment. 6/6 manual worked like a champ, but virtually all of the problems you listed, we constantly had with our automatic - a 10/12 Stratus II.
Was this shop in Butler?
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This is just sad...as usual. No time to help anybody until they say something in public? That says a lot about a company.
Hang in there man. When I was going through this I kept thinking "dear lord, what would this be like if it was an auto". I don't even want to imagine what you're going through.
what?
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Not sure what the question is exactly but my comment is in reference to the fact that, as demonstrated here and in many threads, the newer batches of these machines have many problems. It can take literally months to get even smaller issues resolved or parts ordered and often your problem will not be resolved and then enter this limbo stage of radio silence where it seems it never will. Post something publicly about it and all of the sudden parts can be had, problems can be solved.
Chris(Parker1) did you ever get your situation straightened out? I know you said you were having Spot Color Supply come your way to work on the press, I'm just hoping you got the correct parts and were able to get running right again! Update us!
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Brannon from Spot color is due in tomorrow. My press was never down just runs and prints like crap. Some chopper cylinders are not working properly and some electrical glitches. I ordered some solenoids from Anatol and they have arrived and I plan on replacing those tonight after we finish with production today. We are headed into our busy season (for us) and I can not afford to fumble-fart around with my press with band aide fixes. It causes a lot of anxiety when we are booked up for 2-3 weeks and I wonder if the press will perform or break down causing missed deadlines and to loose customers (which translates into loss income). I will list everything Brannon does to my press, and what the results are. I also only called Anatol for parts NOT service (due to past experiences) and they delivered the parts, I also made sure they have a lift cylinder for my press so if Brannon tells me it needs to be replaced I can overnight it in.
Chris
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Hats off to Brannon with Spot Color Supply. Below is a list and I am sure to leave some things off or may be unclear.
-Plum the shaft (was not too far off)
-Calibrated the press (included shimming & leveling all the heads, pallets, screen holders and print arms / centering pallet arms to print heads)
-Replaced the lift cylinder (had it delivered next day from Anatol)
-Replaced all the proximity sensors on the print heads
-Fixed air leaks
-Checked the registration bearings (surprisingly did not have to adjust any)
-Fixed issues with the chopper cylinders, by increasing the pressure from 40psi too 80psi/ I no longer use this for adjusting my Squeegee pressures.
My machine now runs smoother/ quitter (no more bangs and pings when indexing and when the table lifts) and prints MUCH better. I have ran more than 1200 impressions since Brannon left and it has NEVER ran so well (everything from pocket prints to half tones, we are in the middle of a 1400 bag run now). Brannon is very professional, and I am VERY pleased with the work he did (nothing was done half *$$). Anatol's support team also deserves a nod for getting me the parts I needed overnighted. Thanks again to Brannon and Scott at Spot Color Supply and I highly recommend their services.
Chris
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Things are looking up for more than one company,
good to hear. :)
Confidence booster w/ a smooth press.
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Dude... You made my day!!
Let me know if their is anything we can help you with!!
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Man that is GREAT to hear!!!!! Very good to know there is a good resource in Brandon also!
Chris I could just feel your pain when we were in Long Beach. This is great news for you, bet you feel 10 pounds lighter!
Really cool to see it worked out!
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Dude... You made my day!!
Let me know if their is anything we can help you with!!
Good to hear. Did you get a chance to e-mail us the part # from Automation direct? (flow adjustment valve) I should have filmed the press before then after you left, to give others an idea of what the differences are.
Alex, hopefully I will be about 1200 pounds lighter this year.....
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Dude... You made my day!!
Let me know if their is anything we can help you with!!
Good to hear. Did you get a chance to e-mail us the part # from Automation direct? (flow adjustment valve) I should have filmed the press before then after you left, to give others an idea of what the differences are.
Alex, hopefully I will be about 1200 pounds lighter this year.....
I need the thread size of the cylinder or muffler... Best way to find out is take the muffler to a hardware store.