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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: ZooCity on February 26, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
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Looking at the modified baker's style that are resold as screen racks. Need 4 of 'em, don't want to cheap out but $500+ for a screen rack? Please.
Anyone know of a good one? Ours will move around in a loop, not long distances but a lot of shuffling on uneven wood floors. M3 rollers, 23x31 and 25x30.
Ranar's look good for the price:
http://www.ranar.com/accessories/pre-press.html (http://www.ranar.com/accessories/pre-press.html)
There's a welded one and assembled one, assembled looks to be around $175 per.
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500 bucks for a single screen rack..
Look at what I built for less than 400.
I've built just about every table, cabinet and whatnot from 2x4's and plywood.
The company makes its own screen panels as we have custom sized frames. Thats what the black panels are.
Features pass through screens in both cabinet and exposure unit. Forced air drying for wet screens on the wash side and sliding doors on tracks for storage above the exposure.
Still have much to do before it's completed.. when it is.. best screen room ever!!
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Alloy America. I think I paid $199 that last time I bought them. Holds 25? I think I had to redrill the center bars but take two secs.
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http://aaframes.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=15 (http://aaframes.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=15)
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John could you explain how that setup would work?
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John,
Looks like some good work there. There is alot of things that looks funny to me. Why the raised floor? it that some California Code thing? The rest looks good. I like the pass though idea saves time. I would do that here but I would be passing it though to myself so not much times saved there. So the Pass though cabinets are your drying racks right. That way your not passing wet screens into the dry area.
So when is that shop going to be running? Can't wait to take a tour.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ADJUSTABLE-ALUMINUM-DRYING-RACK-SCREEN-PRINTING-NEW-/331137948773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d195c1c65 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ADJUSTABLE-ALUMINUM-DRYING-RACK-SCREEN-PRINTING-NEW-/331137948773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d195c1c65)
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[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/ADJUSTABLE-ALUMINUM-DRYING-RACK-SCREEN-PRINTING-NEW-/331137948773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d195c1c65[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/ADJUSTABLE-ALUMINUM-DRYING-RACK-SCREEN-PRINTING-NEW-/331137948773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d195c1c65[/url])
Contact those guys, they will give a better deal on more. I did buy a few squeegees from them in the past. I believe they are the same as an AA frames, both are from Pittsburgh area.
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[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/ADJUSTABLE-ALUMINUM-DRYING-RACK-SCREEN-PRINTING-NEW-/331137948773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d195c1c65[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/ADJUSTABLE-ALUMINUM-DRYING-RACK-SCREEN-PRINTING-NEW-/331137948773?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d195c1c65[/url])
Contact those guys, they will give a better deal on more. I did buy a few squeegees from them in the past. I believe they are the same as an AA frames, both are from Pittsburgh area.
ditto!
got two for $400 delivered.
pierre
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Shurloc has the best ones...solid as a rock.
http://shurloc.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SFS&Product_Code=SL-FRAME-RACK&Category_Code=SL8-SHOPACC (http://shurloc.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SFS&Product_Code=SL-FRAME-RACK&Category_Code=SL8-SHOPACC)
sam
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if you are handy, have the extra time, maybe and hour, and like to tinker with things. I picked up a 30 shelf bakers rolling rack used on ebay for 70 bucks, free shipping. Bought a few lengths of 3/8" threaded rod, and a few lengths of electrical conduit pipe. Cut the pipe into 6 peices wide enough to give me the space I needed to space the rack apart for 23x31 newmans. Cut the threaded rod to go through the frame of the rack, through the pipe, washer between the pipe and the rack, then washer a nut on the outside, basically the threaded rod and the pipe replaced the 6spacer bars that came with the rack but only allowed it to be 18" wide. Cost me all of 100 bucks and left me with enough rod and pipe/nuts and washers to do the same to a few more. Just an idea if you are the tinkering type. The time it would have taken to put a new one together was the same as doing this, add 30 mins to cut the pipe and the threaded rod. Not bad, just keeping my eyes peeled for more used racks. A used backers rack is nothing compare to used from a screen shop lol. These are a nice rack, and the ranar ones are good too http://microperfect.net/CatalogFolder/PriceList5.htm (http://microperfect.net/CatalogFolder/PriceList5.htm)
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John could you explain how that setup would work?
The design behind it to use the space as efficiently as possible without having to take more than 3 steps to do anything screen related. What you don't see is the wash tank, the dip tanks, the blockout box nor the other storage racks. You can't see to the left of the picture but that is where both presses and the dryer infeed are. Our entire operation runs from this area on a screen in/out loop system that follows a flow chart designed so that paths are not crossed.
The other thing you don't see if the 12'x60' mezzanine deck that goes above everything from the screen room on one end to the ink room on the other.
whats' with the elevated floor.. drum spill containment boxes. Being that the entire area is 'wet' any and all water falls into the boxes and evaporates out. It also keeps the floor clean as reclaim is known to be the dirtiest place in the shop. Our screen area is the heartbeat of the shop so it needs all the help in staying clean that we can give it.
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Here's pics of the mod, figured this might help understand, normally they come with a bar that spaces the rack apart, bolt goes through the frame of the rack, and into the bar, this mod was cheap, easy, and just as rugged.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/14wfuky.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/9sfi1e.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/10ie90i.jpg)
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After looking around for a while and getting screwed out of a good deal on a pair of the pre-built ones on craigslist (guy was asking $25 each, and when I showed up after driving an hour to get them he wanted $100 each...dick), I just decided to build one. I would change one or two things when I build another one, but this one cost less than $50 and took 2 hours from start to finish, mostly spent angle grinding the curves and screwing the shelves in. The rack holds 26 23x31 screens and is on casters. The shelves are made from a piece of angled aluminum I found at lowe's in the same area as the gutters. It was $1.17 for a 10 ft piece and I could make four shelves (2 screens worth) from each piece. I cut all 30" sections needed, then clamped them together and used the angle grinded to create the curve on all the shelves at once, then used a grinding block to get the burrs out after they were screwed into the frame. It was a lot faster than I originally thought it would be.
Yes I know I cracked the board at the top, but it is just cosmetic to hide the joint connecting the two sides so I didn't care enough to cut another piece.
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Dude, you cracked the board in the top right corner of the rack :) Looks really good besides that cracked board in the top right corner. I think I will build one like that except for the cracked board...in the top right corner... I'm on my way to Lowes in a few to buy some goodies to finish a few projects and I think I will go ahead and get materials for a rolling rack. Thanks for the inspiration and ideas.
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haha...i knew as soon as I saw the photo that someone would notice it.
There are a bunch of options for those angled metal pieces. Look for the cheapest one that is 1.5"x2". The ones I got didn't have a price tag on the shelf, so I had to take them up to do a price check, but they were basically the smallest and cheapest option in that section. If you want to spend a few dollars more per 10 ft piece, they had one that is 2" x 2" that was about twice as thick that I was tempted to get instead, but I figured they don't need to do anything but hold up a single screen so I cheaped out :D Make sure you have a fine grinding wheel for your angle grinder. I tried a not so fine one at first with interesting results...
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I get the used baker racks $65-$100 each, cut down the center with a skill saw, set to proper width. Insert 3/4" copper tubing and pop rivet or cut wood to fit inside and run a few self drilling screws in.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bun-Pan-Rack-ARC-Stainless-Products-Model-No-SPR-20KD-/121284587833 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bun-Pan-Rack-ARC-Stainless-Products-Model-No-SPR-20KD-/121284587833)
Around $120 shipped on ebay. It will need widening a bit
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Actually, this one seemed as the best deal
http://www.peachsuite.com/745870/sheet-pan-rack-69h-heavy-duty-20-pan-capacity-3-runner-spacing-4-5-swivel-rubber-casters-alrk-20bk.html (http://www.peachsuite.com/745870/sheet-pan-rack-69h-heavy-duty-20-pan-capacity-3-runner-spacing-4-5-swivel-rubber-casters-alrk-20bk.html)
It has the brakes on the front wheels.
Ordered one, will let you know how it looks when it comes in.
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Putting aluminum and other metals together isn't always a good idea. The aluminum will oxidize. This is a link about the issue.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080707185008AA4YMaJ (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080707185008AA4YMaJ)
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Its called galvanic corrosion. You need an electrolyte (water, acid, etc) and oxygen (can be in the electrolyte) for it occur. Being that the racks are not exposed to constant water, kept in an environment around 30% humidity it will be decades before any corrosion will occur in this situation. If it was an issue I could isolate the two or suppress the problem with a low voltage (mV) dc current.
Its the location of the materials on the "Noble" scale shows which will react. Gold being the highest (cathode), Zinc the lowest (anode). The decay will occur on the one with the lower number as the current flows from the less noble to the higher on taking molecules with it. The principle is how a battery works and how we protect all types of metals in harsh environments.