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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Gilligan on March 12, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
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Just got our first large order 1500 shirts. 1 color front and back (left chest woot!) Only downside is it's white on purple, but they are ring spun!
Anyway... got 950 lbs of shirts on the pallet today and my office manager said "do I need to count them (individually)?"
I thought it was a good question. When you guys are doing large orders like this do you guys count them all in?
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we count everything TWICE!
Before and after printing.
pierre
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they should be counted in before staging and obviously counted out before shipping.
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We count when they come in, when they are laid out to print and before they are packed. It cant hurt and its just counting, not that hard to do!!
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Count them. We count them on the way in and the machine counts them for us as we print.
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Everything is counted 3 times here. Pulling when they come in, the press counts them, and counted when coming out of the dryer and going back in boxes. It is VERY worth it vs. hearing a customer claim they are short 4 $18 hoodies....
P.S. Where the hell have you been? ;D
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we always count them... every time.
if doing 2 sided prints of more than 1 color per side, we add a few extras of each size, especially if a longer run.
if we didn't make any oops shirts, we include the extras when we ship.
I NEVER want a customer to call me and say we left out a shirt. Our customers are usually ordering exact #'s, so if they're short, we look bad.
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Welcome back. Thought you bought the farm.. er restaurant.
All orders checked in, db auto emails client if it's contract work, order is counted by machine when printed and
then counted after every print location. Sucks to get to the last print location and fine you're short
a piece or two.
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we count everything TWICE!
Before and after printing.
pierre
Big ole Amen to that!
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Everything is counted 3 times here. Pulling when they come in, the press counts them, and counted when coming out of the dryer and going back in boxes.
Exact same here.
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I could keep an employee busy simply counting all day every day, so no, not when they come in, but as someone else said, when they are staged, absolutely, and of course as they are boxed. (we just had to let a guy go because he couldn't seem to do that) We do however, check the packing slips and number of cases, but not open and count every piece. We are fortunate enough to be within 30 - 45 minute driving distance from Bodek, AlphaBroder (NES branch) and Commonwealth Cotton, so in most emergencies, someone can go get what we need.
Steve
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Just a thought......There is a cost to counting them coming in.....Instead of incurring this cost, why not order extra shirts?....Then count them on the way out....Customer should end up with extra shirts at no extra cost to you....Or you end up with extra blanks if you can stop printing when you have enough for the order...
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Large orders 2k+=box count. Don't make money counting shirts.
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We count everything don't matter 12 pc or 1500, count on the way in and on the way back out, also check size's check for holes etc. We treat every order the same big or small...
Darryl
We are fortunate enough to be within 30 - 45 minute driving distance from Bodek, AlphaBroder (NES branch) and Commonwealth Cotton, so in most emergencies, someone can go get what we need.
Steve you lucky Dog!!!! ;D
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Large orders 2k+=box count. Don't make money counting shirts.
exactly , box count here , check supplier packing slip, counter on machine , boxed back in 72's. Counting 1500 shirts and checking for holes ( there are to many places to look front back under sleeves) would be an absolute night mare here. Never have had issues with orders.
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Yes. Only exception is same day largish say 1000 up that has full cases, with customer sign off on numbers ahead of time.
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counted 4 times
the guy that pulls the order - counts the dozens / breaks open factory boxes to make sure correct size and color are inside.
the person that stages the order counts the individual shirts
the person at the end of the dryer counts the shirts and packs in boxes or re-stages for the next side of shirt
the person in shipping counts the shirts to make sure that the customer is getting the exact count.
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Curious on you contract guys, your counting the shirts customers are providing? I wouldn't have guessed you'd do that?
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Count twice. Make half of an "X" on the appropriate number on the order sheet when laying out and stacking to print, and the other half of the "X" when packing.
How else can you be honestly incredulous when the client claims you shorted them?
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Curious on you contract guys, your counting the shirts customers are providing? I wouldn't have guessed you'd do that?
Absolutely. How else do they know that their garments were shipped correctly? That's why we have the database email them
to let them know when it's been checked in completely. We try and check in same day in case of any issues. If we didn't and it's time to
print we would be on hold until they get the garments in and that would suck. Covers us both. Just part of doing business I
suppose.
Speaking of which, it would seem many distributors got caught short this spring in terms of labor etc. We're getting a lot of
mi-ships lately.
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Large orders are counted by the cases, the misc box is counted individually.
Then the order count is tracked on the auto to confirm the cases were correct which is normally the case.
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Curious on you contract guys, your counting the shirts customers are providing? I wouldn't have guessed you'd do that?
Absolutely. How else do they know that their garments were shipped correctly? That's why we have the database email them
to let them know when it's been checked in completely. We try and check in same day in case of any issues. If we didn't and it's time to
print we would be on hold until they get the garments in and that would suck. Covers us both. Just part of doing business I
suppose.
Speaking of which, it would seem many distributors got caught short this spring in terms of labor etc. We're getting a lot of
mi-ships lately.
I only ask because I have seen some people say contract is basically we print your shirts, we dont check them for holes, count, nothing.
Personally we dont do contract so we count everything but always wondered how some others did it after seeing some of those policies in the past on various sites.
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Curious on you contract guys, your counting the shirts customers are providing? I wouldn't have guessed you'd do that?
Absolutely. How else do they know that their garments were shipped correctly? That's why we have the database email them
to let them know when it's been checked in completely. We try and check in same day in case of any issues. If we didn't and it's time to
print we would be on hold until they get the garments in and that would suck. Covers us both. Just part of doing business I
suppose.
Speaking of which, it would seem many distributors got caught short this spring in terms of labor etc. We're getting a lot of
mi-ships lately.
I only ask because I have seen some people say contract is basically we print your shirts, we dont check them for holes, count, nothing.
Personally we dont do contract so we count everything but always wondered how some others did it after seeing some of those policies in the past on various sites.
We count all contract orders providing they provide us with order PO's. If they do not then all we have to go by is the packing slip and not being able to match that to the order PO we cannot tell if there is a missorder.
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Count In, Count out. Too risky to just open boxes and start printing. A lot of companies I visit just go with the dozen folds and stack a pallet to 1440 and pallet wrap. However, if you print for a large apparel company chargebacks are the rule, not the exception. We also had to check for shading, dye lot differences so it paid in the end to avoid a large chargeback by shading and grading the shirts first. We also stacked 300pc one direction and 300 the other direction to press out the shirts so the baseplate white had a good flat surface.
Our loader often had final inspection of the shirt. We used flip loading just so we could see the back and the front of a shirt as it's loaded onto the pallet. We also kept a running count of the flawed shirts to see if it exceeded the extra's we bought so that we could run over to the distributor to pick up more. We got lucky on our choice of the plant location, within minutes of a major distributor, so when we hit the 200-300 left we had time to replace all rejects.
Counting in and out also prevents in house theft. When we printed for Disney it was amazing how many shirts could go missing! Often we had to pack immediately, palletize, shrink wrap and put the pallet in a secured fenced area. At least someone liked the prints!
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I only ask because I have seen some people say contract is basically we print your shirts, we dont check them for holes, count, nothing.
Personally we dont do contract so we count everything but always wondered how some others did it after seeing some of those policies in the past on various sites.
Right. I've seen that stated quite a bit. Understandable but isn't going to lead to long term relationships with quality contract clients. That's
more for the folks that print for johnny off the street that "has this box of shirts".
We even count in full cases, I don't know how many I've seen that have been off, typically by the dozen.
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I only ask because I have seen some people say contract is basically we print your shirts, we dont check them for holes, count, nothing.
Personally we dont do contract so we count everything but always wondered how some others did it after seeing some of those policies in the past on various sites.
Right. I've seen that stated quite a bit. Understandable but isn't going to lead to long term relationships with quality contract clients. That's
more for the folks that print for johnny off the street that "has this box of shirts".
We even count in full cases, I don't know how many I've seen that have been off, typically by the dozen.
I agree, I just didn't know if you contract guys justified some of your pricing by effectively "only" printing. I am sure some do, like you we count it all. Did 5k order the other day, probably 4 of those cases had at least 1 shirt missing. We ordered extras so we were good.
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We count everything don't matter 12 pc or 1500, count on the way in and on the way back out, also check size's check for holes etc. We treat every order the same big or small...
Darryl
We are fortunate enough to be within 30 - 45 minute driving distance from Bodek, AlphaBroder (NES branch) and Commonwealth Cotton, so in most emergencies, someone can go get what we need.
Steve you lucky Dog!!!! ;D
It is a bit of alright Darryl. And, we do a lot of contract, and we're not paid to count piece by piece over and over again. Check the cases and packing slips, that's good enough until unpacking/staging, then the catcher does the final count, makes the packing lists and seals the boxes. The shipper only has to ship. And to answer Brandt, we bend over backwards for our contract customers, and they trust us implicitly. We have maybe 10 large contract customers that have stayed with us for at least 15 years. Like anything, do good work, treat them with the same respect you would want, and get paid accordingly. I've told them many times how to save money time and put their best foot forward when going back to the end user. We have some pretty big corporations, national and international, that appreciate what we do and keep coming back for more. One them recently sent in new art and left out the TM. We pointed them out to our contact, and he bummed out big time as they had just taken receipt of 10K water bottles without the TM. Aye, Carrumba...
Steve
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We had a contract job last year dropped shipped to us, we check the order to verify and we found over half the order was seconds, called the custy and ask, and low and behold it was the wrong stuff. that's one of the reason we check boxes when they come in, but we're not getting 5K to 10K orders so it's a bit different for us..so we have a little time to check.
Darryl
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we count everything TWICE!
Before and after printing.
pierre
same here
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We count every order before and after printing. On top of that we check all shirts for holes, dirt to avoid customer complaints. If we find any rejects we get the garment supplier to replace them right away.
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For contract printing, my philosophy has and always will be the onus of accuracy is mutually owned by both the customer/vendor.
Again when do dot get paid for other peoples mistakes counting should be included, And they do. We had an 80K pc order which took about a week to reconcile
not my current co btw
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We only do contract work. Yes we always count every piece at least 3 times. Right when it hits the loading dock, at press /machine and at the end of the job. Especially important with our embroidery side. Some of the garments cost a lot compare to teeshirts. Our customers love that we notify them of any issues. Giving them the time to fix the issue before production or event deadlines. Also saves time to have product ready to go.
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If your short ten does it matter? If so count them.
Roger
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