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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Rockers on March 19, 2014, 06:49:29 PM
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The airline lubricator on our Diamondback S is not working at all. I observed it over the last few days and there is not one drop of oil being distributed. Changed the settings too to almost maximum and still nothing. What are recommended procedures to get this fixed. Will simply draining it and then refilling it solve this issue?
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The airline lubricator on our Diamondback S is not working at all. I observed it over the last few days and there is not one drop of oil being distributed. Changed the settings too to almost maximum and still nothing. What are recommended procedures to get this fixed. Will simply draining it and then refilling it solve this issue?
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We replaced ours in it's second year, same thing, just stopped working properly. Got a nice one from Grainger, this one has been great. It could be a tiny particle blocking the very fine tube that the oil travels through.
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I bought a heavy duty one from harbor freight, much better than the one that came with the press.
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You guys got a link please?
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Sorry I forgot your in China/Japan.....I'm going to ask you a dumb question but did you give it time to revolve, I think you mention you open it up all the way and oil should have drop quick. Find your local air tool supply co they should have one.
Darryl
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Sorry I forgot your in China/Japan.....I'm going to ask you a dumb question but did you give it time to revolve, I think you mention you open it up all the way and oil should have drop quick. Find your local air tool supply co they should have one.
Darryl
No offence here but I`m not in China;)
Japan it is.
I have drained it now and refilled it too. Will have to do a few thousand discharge prints today so I hope that it will work now but I`m not to positive about it. It should not break down after only 2 years.
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Mine broke down after one year, some of the oiler units are really sorry, I went thru two in under five years and number 3 seems to be doing the trick. the oiler never stop working it just leak air and started blowing oil all over the floor. Good luck today
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Ok so that is interesting. Our M&R tech told me just now that we can actually close the airline lubricator completely as it is not needed anylonger at all due to changes made by M&R on the machines two years ago.
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Ok so that is interesting. Our M&R tech told me just now that we can actually close the airline lubricator completely as it is not needed anylonger at all due to changes made by M&R on the machines two years ago.
What do you mean?
Please expound.
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You guys got a link please?
This is the one we got.
http://m.grainger.com/mobile/product/SPEEDAIRE-Frl-7D746?fc=MWP2IDP2PCP (http://m.grainger.com/mobile/product/SPEEDAIRE-Frl-7D746?fc=MWP2IDP2PCP)
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Ok so that is interesting. Our M&R tech told me just now that we can actually close the airline lubricator completely as it is not needed anylonger at all due to changes made by M&R on the machines two years ago.
What do you mean?
Please expound.
I`m trying to get more info on that as it seems strange to me too.
That`s just what he told me via email.
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Ok so that is interesting. Our M&R tech told me just now that we can actually close the airline lubricator completely as it is not needed anylonger at all due to changes made by M&R on the machines two years ago.
What do you mean?
Please expound.
Ok here is the explanation.
"The original design Of the airline lubricator since the beginning has been as followed. Double cups with one for oil and one to filter the air. But after a while they found out that the oil will wash away the grease inside the valves and cylinders. That cause sthe valves and cylinders not to work smoothly so they changed the design to not to use the airline lubricator and we also recommend to close the oil supply from the airline lubricator for all the machines in the market."
But I would suggest you ask your tech about this just to be 100% sure.
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Ok so that is interesting. Our M&R tech told me just now that we can actually close the airline lubricator completely as it is not needed anylonger at all due to changes made by M&R on the machines two years ago.
What do you mean?
Please expound.
Ok here is the explanation.
"The original design Of the airline lubricator since the beginning has been as followed. Double cups with one for oil and one to filter the air. But after a while they found out that the oil will wash away the grease inside the valves and cylinders. That cause sthe valves and cylinders not to work smoothly so they changed the design to not to use the airline lubricator and we also recommend to close the oil supply from the airline lubricator for all the machines in the market."
But I would suggest you ask your tech about this just to be 100% sure.
This is incorrect. May I ask who was the tech?
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once you run an oiler on air gear, NEVER run the machine dry again.
as was stated, the oil will wash away the lubricants in the cylinders and solenoids...
if you run it dry, you risk blowing the seals and causing yourself a really expensive repair.
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once you run an oiler on air gear, NEVER run the machine dry again.
as was stated, the oil will wash away the lubricants in the cylinders and solenoids...
if you run it dry, you risk blowing the seals and causing yourself a really expensive repair.
That is completely correct. Oil-less systems like on the new Challenger III do not require oil and have an oil separator at the input to the air to eliminate even compressor oil from entering the system. Once oil is in the system you should not run the press for a long period of time without oil in the oilier. I would be also curious to see the oilier stated that failed to see why it is not working. I personally have not seen an oilier that did not work unless contaminated air was putting rust particles or something like that into the unit.
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I have seen neglected presses in some shops I have worked for that the air lines in the head cracked & crumbled apart because of this.
Murphy37
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once you run an oiler on air gear, NEVER run the machine dry again.
as was stated, the oil will wash away the lubricants in the cylinders and solenoids...
if you run it dry, you risk blowing the seals and causing yourself a really expensive repair.
That is completely correct. Oil-less systems like on the new Challenger III do not require oil and have an oil separator at the input to the air to eliminate even compressor oil from entering the system. Once oil is in the system you should not run the press for a long period of time without oil in the oilier. I would be also curious to see the oilier stated that failed to see why it is not working. I personally have not seen an oilier that did not work unless contaminated air was putting rust particles or something like that into the unit.
I'm glad I brought this up. It did sound kind of strange to me not having to use the airline lubricator.
I will check tomorrow if daring it of the oil and refilling it has made any difference.
What is considered a long period of time for running the machine without oil? Got lots of work to do next week on that press. And I'm not sure for how long this is already broken. I think we last refilled the oil a month ago.
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once you run an oiler on air gear, NEVER run the machine dry again.
as was stated, the oil will wash away the lubricants in the cylinders and solenoids...
if you run it dry, you risk blowing the seals and causing yourself a really expensive repair.
That is completely correct. Oil-less systems like on the new Challenger III do not require oil and have an oil separator at the input to the air to eliminate even compressor oil from entering the system. Once oil is in the system you should not run the press for a long period of time without oil in the oilier. I would be also curious to see the oilier stated that failed to see why it is not working. I personally have not seen an oilier that did not work unless contaminated air was putting rust particles or something like that into the unit.
I'm glad I brought this up. It did sound kind of strange to me not having to use the airline lubricator.
I will check tomorrow if daring it of the oil and refilling it has made any difference.
What is considered a long period of time for running the machine without oil? Got lots of work to do next week on that press. And I'm not sure for how long this is already broken. I think we last refilled the oil a month ago.
What is the name of the M&R tech who told you not to oil any longer?
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OK so in the end we got it fixed and oil is "flowing" again. We all agreed it was a misunderstanding by the tech here in Japan and now it`s set to 30 index/drop of oil.