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screen printing => Newbie => Topic started by: Appstro on April 01, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
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I have done about 5 jobs now and have learned alot just from asking questions and watching vids on youtube. Would I still benefit greatly from taking a screen printing 2 day class like the one theat Ryonet offers? Or have I moved beyond that already?
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keep printing watch youtube, read the boards ask questions, watch what others are doing ......work on every element bit by bit. Classes are great SOMETIMES but typically I think you get more philosophy than practice unless you go with the big time guys and drop some real $$$$.
my suggestion is buried in the story here........A guy stops a cop in NY city and asks how do I get to Carnegie Hall ....the cop replies PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE
mooseman
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Your education is never ending in this business. The classes would not hurt. Your experience is going to be the best teacher.
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they couldn't hurt. I would recommend taking classes at a show. I think you will get a broader range of instructors, and ones that might not necessarily be pushing their own products.
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they couldn't hurt. I would recommend taking classes at a show. I think you will get a broader range of instructors, and ones that might not necessarily be pushing their own products.
^^what mk said. Also would not hurt to take some Business classes.
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Not all classes are aimed at absolute beginners.
Read what is offered, and what will be covered.
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I am not promoting the class, but here's a link:
http://www.screenprinting.com/screen-print-experience-class-sd-apr-25th-apr-26th-2014.html#.UzrcS6LwqPO (http://www.screenprinting.com/screen-print-experience-class-sd-apr-25th-apr-26th-2014.html#.UzrcS6LwqPO)
Its literally blocks from my house and $300.00 for 2 days....
Too good to be true?
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There was one in ATL called Screen Inkstitute or something like that by our friend JR but that apparently fizzled for some reason
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I know a little bit about this :) I did have a few things typed out here but I've decided that I should say a small piece and move on. I think most have good intentions and the majority do a good job of educating, but there will always be a conflict of interest if suppliers are doing a workshop. I won't go into all of that and I think the vast majority don't allow those conflicts to influence the wrong things being taught.
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There was one in ATL called Screen Inkstitute or something like that by our friend JR but that apparently fizzled for some reason
Tony - Thanks for the huge smile! You're a riot sometimes amigo.
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https://www.youtube.com/user/Ryonet (https://www.youtube.com/user/Ryonet)
https://www.youtube.com/user/CatspitProductions (https://www.youtube.com/user/CatspitProductions)
I kind off do not like the presentation, but there is a lot of good info
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Douglas Grigar teaches classes at Vastex.. He has a video training series that could be of benefit..
The Screen Printing Encyclopedia
http://www.thegrendel.com/Shop/osc/screen-printing-encyclopedia-p-303.htm
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Even seasoned veterans could take a brush up course for beginners and learn something new. I am 17 years in and still learn something new everyday, if you don't, you will be left in the dust. Then again, if you are here, you are learning.
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The only problem I see is that getting to the point of learning something new, how many of the things being taught have you already figured out how to do or even do better leaving you questioning the whole presentation in the first place.
Just sayin......
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That can be a pitfall to avoid. Another one is that one can walk away from training with the false tenet that "this is how I was taught therefore this is how it must be done". To be sure this is not always the case. In a production facility model based on mass customization with a practically infinite amount of interdependent variables one must learn to step back and use practical theory with a good dash of ingenuity and good old fashion logic and problem solving. That only gets better over time as one builds knowledge from experience. Classes are but a mere foundation for practical application of what will become ones own "Printers Perspective"
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close to 20 yrs doing this, from wood frames and an old tub for a washout booth to just getting my 2nd auto delivered here in a few weeks to amp up production...I've never stopped learning, to this day i always look at the classes that are at the shows, if i see something that i'd like to brush up on i sign up. starter classes are just that for starting up...i'd say take em. anything that can help you improve your prints or output cant hurt. Not to mention you can an will make a few friends at those things that you can maybe call when your in a pinch and they'll help you out. Like others said..these forums are for me the best..i'm always lurking hardley ever post anymore, but i'm always reading what others have to say even on tips and tricks...The people that are die hards like Frog and a few others...dont be afraid to pick there minds...theres so much there ask questions dont be afraid....avoid the short cuts they might work for the bullet proof prints but in the end they will cost you...once you have the basics down, then you can tweek the process to fit your style and your shops. In this area, printing you can never stop learning theres always something out there...just my two cents worth
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I try to teach the basics and how they affect the next step in the process and the ink deposit. I won't go into a ton of detail on which blade or perfect mesh count to use for every application and I try to keep it simple and easy to understand, like soft blades deposit more ink, bigger percentage mesh openings mean less pressure needed to shear ink, steeper angle equals less ink deposit than flat angle, low tension bad, proper tension good, etc. I know that a supplier that relies on selling statics is not going to give the negatives to low tension printing and they also won't be talking about any other mesh counts other than what they sell. And everyone knows my thoughts on the mesh counts that most suppliers sell so I won't whip everyone's butt on that rant.
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for what it's worth, I still take a ton of classes and always learn something even if I don't necessarily agree with the instructor. At $300 it should be worth the money. My only concern is about the instructors. Are they going to teach you the proper way or what they've been doing or somebody else told them to teach. There is only a very small group of experts in this industry, and it would serve you well to get the correct info from the first day.
pierre