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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: ericheartsu on May 09, 2014, 09:05:08 AM

Title: Burnout ink
Post by: ericheartsu on May 09, 2014, 09:05:08 AM
We wanna try some of this!

Who makes it? What do we need to know?
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: tonypep on May 09, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
CAREFUL Eric. This is sensitive stuff. Aqueous based sodium hydroxide. Its the main ingredient in a household product (care to guess?) but never the less handle with care and use the proper PPE and ventilate heavily. It destroys cotton leaving poly behind after washing. The excess lint can choke your clothes dryer so we used a professional launderer. Its very tricky stuff and you can ruin a lot of product very easily however that said, if you master it you can come up with some very cool stuff when designed right. I've found it best as an element of a design rather than an entire graphic.
Remember it requires a post laundering so charge accordingly. In the end after cost analysis we simply priced the process out of existence.
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: tonypep on May 09, 2014, 09:35:33 AM
Oh and Nazdar used to sell it as part of the Magna line. That was a few ys ago
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: 3Deep on May 09, 2014, 11:07:49 AM
Sounds like some nasty stuff, think it could dehaze screens?

Darryl
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: tonypep on May 09, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
Perhaps but I know it can unclog drains.
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: Frog on May 09, 2014, 11:50:14 AM
And Tony doesn't lye!  ;D

Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: tonypep on May 09, 2014, 12:02:23 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: tonypep on May 09, 2014, 12:49:42 PM
People think of it as new but its actually an old process previously referred to as fabric etching. I have a book on it somewhere. Velvet lampshade patterns are/were often decorated this way. When the bulb is lit the pattern shines through. If you wish to color it procion dyes are best. We did a sample for the Ramones this way using their circular logo on fleece, giving it a discharge halo. It was pretty stunning. Garments like this can retail upwards of $80 at stores such as Fred Segal
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: ScreenFoo on May 09, 2014, 02:02:43 PM
I'd bet it's even better than WB/discharge at breaking down stencils too...   ;D
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: Underbase37 on May 09, 2014, 04:14:54 PM
I'd bet it's even better than WB/discharge at breaking down stencils too...   ;D

That was my thought too. & I think that the Matsui line has some.

Murphy37

Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: DannyGruninger on May 09, 2014, 08:31:42 PM
Virus stocks a burnout ink that I've seen amazing samples of and I believe wilflex had or has a product called oasis burnout ink.
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: Screened Gear on May 09, 2014, 09:57:53 PM
If you can't find some you could always print with some pool chlorine, that stuff eats my shorts every time I put it in the pool. I was going to try it once but didn't have time. I wouldn't of ran it though the dryer, just let it air dry. Id say 50/50 with a water base clear and you have some ink, or a bomb. Most likely a bomb.
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: ScreenFoo on May 10, 2014, 01:20:06 PM
No mixing or possible reactions needed, soft scrub with bleach is already the right consistency.

As an added benefit, you'll be half done reclaiming the screen ten or fifteen minutes after you start.  ;)
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: TCT on May 10, 2014, 03:08:53 PM
Just talked with the Matsui rep yesterday at the show. They have ink for this.
Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: Rob Coleman on May 10, 2014, 09:28:13 PM
Magna has this product as well.  Nazdar SourceOne has 25kg pails in stock.  GO to sourceoneonline.com for more info!


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Title: Re: Burnout ink
Post by: Rob Coleman on May 10, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
Also understand it is a two part system - you need the burnout activator.  This is NOT the same activator as disharge.  Product is caustic; proper precautions as Tony stated above are a must.



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