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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: ericheartsu on May 15, 2014, 09:00:45 PM

Title: ink recs. needed!
Post by: ericheartsu on May 15, 2014, 09:00:45 PM
A bigger client of ours just asked if we could print some Lululemon tees they are buying for their instructors!

Here is the thing, the material is:
78% Nylon
19% Polyester
3% X-static (Silver + Nylon)

Now at first i thought that x-static was just the edging/trim of the fabric, but it's actually in the fabric. It's supposed to help against static!

Any ida as to what inks we should use? or what additives?
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: mk162 on May 15, 2014, 09:03:59 PM
silicone?
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: Printficient on May 15, 2014, 09:17:43 PM
Xenon Mu$tang Series
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: Frog on May 15, 2014, 09:26:17 PM
At the bottom left of the page I have linked, there is contact info, phone, live chat, email. If no other definitive answer is forthcoming here, I suggest your question be posed to the folks who should know (at least someone there should know)

I am unsure if Sonny suggests his ink because it is specially formulated for X-Static, or merely because it's a good ink. For all I know, X-Static may not add anything new to the equation.

Lulumon (http://shop.lululemon.com/products/category/women?pagesize=All&page=1&icid=hp;shopwomen&cid=Google&k_clickid=5b808e0d-4e8d-9a88-c2b7-0000590ca57f&k_trackingid=11x1070)
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: mk162 on May 15, 2014, 09:27:44 PM
whatever ink you use...i'd test the piss out of it.

And the silicone might not work since I found it didn't play nice with 100% nylon...a blend might be different and it also might depend on the knit.
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: Frog on May 15, 2014, 10:14:39 PM
Okay, I've read a little about this X-static stuff, and it apparently is not reducing static exactly, but they claim the silver in the fabric, when activated by perspiration, zaps bacteria. Now, what this little bit of silver does to the printing process, I can't say.

X-Static (http://www.x-staticperformance.com/how-silver-works/)
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: jvanick on May 15, 2014, 10:22:15 PM
I'm sure sonny is suggesting it because it cures at like 268 degrees.

We've printed with the white mu $tang and other than having to slow the squeegee down it worked great.  Oh and flashes REALLY quick :)

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Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: Rockers on May 16, 2014, 06:51:54 AM
You can`t go wrong with Sericol Nylotex NX or Nylobag NB inks. Cure at 100 degree Celsius. Nylotex NX is for the more demanding fabrics that have been waterproofed. I`m actually in the same boat as you are, we have to do some tests for Descente Ski Wear. The print shop in China messed up some work for them, print comes off so they asked us now for test prints and if everything works out they want to run with us. Scary thought.
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: Homer on May 16, 2014, 07:53:47 AM
I would suggest something that cures without heat. such as WM Plastics ECO aqua....stuff is awesome.

http://wmplasticsinc.com/eco-aqua-waterbase-ink-c-79.html?zenid=e660208b1d423b5d3dd0a6a8d77e627b (http://wmplasticsinc.com/eco-aqua-waterbase-ink-c-79.html?zenid=e660208b1d423b5d3dd0a6a8d77e627b)
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: inkman996 on May 16, 2014, 08:04:22 AM
Sure Sonny suggests his ink because of the lower cure rating but that helps Erics situation ZERO.

Homer nailed it on the head with his suggestion but he would need to confirm that the aqua pura adheres correctly to that material, call Alan Howe at Tech Support and  find out. Also calling Nazdar is always a great idea those guys will recommend exactly what you need and how to use what they offer as well.

A nylon catalyst might not be a good idea if the material has any stretch to it, catalyst such as nylobond makes the ink more brittle.
Title: Re: ink recs. needed!
Post by: mk162 on May 16, 2014, 08:39:39 AM
sonny's ink is also supposed to bond to a broader range of materials.