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screen printing => Waterbase and Discharge => Topic started by: Rockers on June 25, 2014, 09:20:02 PM

Title: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: Rockers on June 25, 2014, 09:20:02 PM
Is there anything like this as a RFU color?
Just asking because Matsui here in Japan offers only metallic silver and in order to get a metallic god we would have to add some yellow pigments to the metallic silver.
So too complicated to me.
Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: ZooCity on June 25, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
It's easy to tint to gold.  I didn't have the best experience with it however, far too much hassle for a print that felt essentially like plastisol to me.  Just my opinion, others love the stuff and there's a good chance the first gal I got was actually spent and causing a good deal of the issues.

Whatever you do, do not overprint it over a DC base or try to activate it! 
Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: tonypep on June 26, 2014, 05:58:58 AM
Union WB Metallic Shimmer Gold is one of the best new products I have seen in years. Everyone is blown away by it. Reeaaallly soft and sparkly.
Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: noortrd on June 26, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
Need glitter base ready to use ink .
Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: KevWilso on June 26, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
They do not make a ready to use metallic gold.  You would have to buy their Metallic Silver Base and tint it using Matsui Neo Gold Yellow MFR. 
Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: ZooCity on June 26, 2014, 10:52:05 AM
Union WB Metallic Shimmer Gold is one of the best new products I have seen in years. Everyone is blown away by it. Reeaaallly soft and sparkly.

Will look into that, thanks. I keep forgetting Union makes WB.

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Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: Rockers on June 26, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
Union WB Metallic Shimmer Gold is one of the best new products I have seen in years. Everyone is blown away by it. Reeaaallly soft and sparkly.
But that`s only for light colored garments, right?
Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: tonypep on June 27, 2014, 06:07:19 AM
No. Printing it direct on navy blanks for a major fitness apparel group and they love it.
Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: Rockers on June 27, 2014, 06:36:38 AM
No. Printing it direct on navy blanks for a major fitness apparel group and they love it.
Maybe I looked at the wrong Union waterbased gold , the only one I can find is the Union Aerotex shimmer gold. Or is there another waterbased gold available from Union?
Title: Re: Matsui metallic gold
Post by: sqslabs on June 27, 2014, 07:56:19 AM
Maybe I looked at the wrong Union waterbased gold , the only one I can find is the Union Aerotex shimmer gold. Or is there another waterbased gold available from Union?

I don't have experience with the Union WB inks, but most metallic WB inks have the opacity to P/F/P and lay down a nice print on dark cotton shirts.  If you get a batch thats a bit runny and you have some time, leave the bucket without a lid for a few days and allow some of the water to evaporate.  The less water, the more opaque they'll print out of the bucket, but as a side effect they also become a bit tougher to work with.

In regards to the Matsui inks, its really not too tough to mix a gold from the silver, and I can send you our formulas if you decide to go that route.  They are the PC colors though, and I understand that Matsui has discontinued that line.  But you should be able to get close with any system using our formulas as a guide. We've done bronze, copper, pink, purple and all sorts of other metallics using that ink and its no more difficult than mixing a standard color.