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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: spotcolorsupply on June 26, 2014, 11:35:08 AM
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We are now selling new, and re-stretching screens with Permanent Blockout... 8)
Save time and tape!!
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2 part polyurethane glues are softer (Less popping), and more chemical resistant!! The inside of the frame has a bead of silicone to prevent ink from seeping into cracks.
Please call for pricing!!
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thats a pretty good idea
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How long does the silicone hold up, especially in dip tanks?
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thats a pretty good idea
Thanks!! Wish it was mine, but printers have been doing this since the old days... Just not many folks do it anymore. It is a very slow process, it "literally" takes twice as long as making a CA glued frame. We know, as a small company, we have to offer more than the big guys. So we are trying to offer a better product, at a reasonable price...
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How long does the silicone hold up, especially in dip tanks?
That is a good question... We have a local customer doing testing for us. So far it has done well. If it doesn't work out, the next option will be to use the same glue we use for the frames... Applying the silicone (because of the viscosity) is easier, but product quality is #1 in my book, so we will do whatever we have to do..
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You don't need the Silicone. A good smooth coat of "glue" on the bottom side of the screen will work and last a long time. I have some screens I glued in production for over a year and hold up. You just don't pressure wash the glue area too hard.
Good idea
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You didn't mention this last month when you did my screens.
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You didn't mention this last month when you did my screens.
We weren't doing it yet... Was being tested (locally), but we try not to sell anything we are not sure of... I would be happy to give you a good deal on your next set... You guys have been a great customer of ours, and we appreciate it!! ;)
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Not a problem, appreciate not bing the Gunie Pig for once. As always pleasure working with you.
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You don't need the Silicone. A good smooth coat of "glue" on the bottom side of the screen will work and last a long time. I have some screens I glued in production for over a year and hold up. You just don't pressure wash the glue area too hard.
Good idea
That was what I was thinking, but the one competitor doing this (that I am aware of), is adding the silicone, so I don't want to do less than them... As time goes by we will re-evaluate, and go from there... ;)
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Can you offer this with S-mesh? If you can, I will be placing an order like yesterday...
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Can you offer this with S-mesh? If you can, I will be placing an order like yesterday...
That is in the works my friend... ;)
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I am one the LOCALS that is testing for Brannon, and I can say these screens suck balls! Just kidding, they are awesome and we will be doing ALL of ours this way from now on. Thanks Brannon.
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I am one the LOCALS that is testing for Brannon, and I can say these screens suck balls! Just kidding, they are awesome and we will be doing ALL of ours this way from now on. Thanks Brannon.
Ha!! Had me going for a second lol!! Thanks man!!
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I've been wanting to do this for years now it seems like but didn't want to get away from our newmans. I've been running some static s mesh screens the last couple days and if all goes well I would be super interested in s mesh screens done this way. The amount of time/money we spend taping screens is pretty sickening to me so to eliminate that all together would be HUGE for us. Spot, once you have s mesh pricing ready to go would you please PM me. I'd be looking at 200-300 screens minimum to start
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I was about to pull the trigger on some s-mesh statics and now this... I guess I have to wait. I would love to stop taping screens!
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I've been wanting to do this for years now it seems like but didn't want to get away from our newmans. I've been running some static s mesh screens the last couple days and if all goes well I would be super interested in s mesh screens done this way. The amount of time/money we spend taping screens is pretty sickening to me so to eliminate that all together would be HUGE for us. Spot, once you have s mesh pricing ready to go would you please PM me. I'd be looking at 200-300 screens minimum to start
Danny, talk to Richard Greaves. Among 100 great explanations and tips, he can also tell you about permanently blocking out Newmans....
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I was about to pull the trigger on some s-mesh statics and now this... I guess I have to wait. I would love to stop taping screens!
The blockout is a great idea and one I'd be interested in as well, but don't wait on anything before pulling the trigger on s-thread. Take it from a guy who just put his first 150s into production today and is kicking himself in the ass for not knowing about them sooner.
Also, while I'm here, would the blockout affect screen tension over time in any way?
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It does not effect tension. Cleaning and coating them takes some getting used to, but there is time/$ savings.
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I devoted an entire article on the tapeless screen many ys ago which described the process. Probably lost forever though.
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we don't use tape anymore, even on wb screens - probably taken from the good book of Tony vers 1 chapter 5 , we use the larger scoop coater. We tried the permanent blockout and with the larger coater, the blockout caused too much drag on the coater, making it stutter. we were using something from kiwo but I'm down to try some of these ones too. next time I order screens, these will be on the list to try.
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Yes that is the problem if it isn't done perfectly. The blockout can interfere with the coating process.
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Yes that is the problem if it isn't done perfectly. The blockout can interfere with the coating process.
Yeah, that was a concern, so far, we haven't gotten any complaints, but only time will tell..??