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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: jvanick on July 02, 2014, 08:47:50 PM
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I was running a job solo tonight, and it got me to thinking... how many of us here run their autos solo? and what's your typical print speed?
I run solo I'd guess about 30-40% of the time.
my normal, not pushing things speed is roughly 200 shirts an hour.
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Thats about right for me. If I push it I can do 300 but I don't like working that hard when it's 115 degrees in the shop like it is now.
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I print at 250 to 550 solo. 550 is only with gildans and pocket prints or small prints.
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This depends on the size press you have and dryer, with my setup being smaller than most I'll say 150 to maybe 200 no flashing, never really time myself, plus I stop during the runs to do other things.
darryl
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I'm not sure how accurate it is, but my "cruising" speed is 28-31 dozen per hour according to my panel readout.
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I have doubts that anybody actually sustains over 34 doz./hour for normal prints, loading and unloading alone.
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I run solo over 50% of the time. Comfortable speed is 6-8 second index. Puts the press at about 28-31 doz/hr. on the panel.
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Depends on what it is. Ran 9am to 1 @ 40 doz. hr 1 operator. But it's no bueno.
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I print alone 95% of the time and only for 2 hours at a time, 2-3 days a week. I try to maintain 35+ dz/hr on the readout because I need to print fast so I'm not stuck on the press more days of the week. If I were full time printing and at the shop for over 3 hours I would probably print slower.
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Do you guys just let the shirts fall, or do you have a cycle if loading and then catching?
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People catching at the end of the belt. Most of our stuff is fold, bag & tag.
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I was running a job solo tonight, and it got me to thinking... how many of us here run their autos solo? and what's your typical print speed?
I run solo I'd guess about 30-40% of the time.
my normal, not pushing things speed is roughly 200 shirts an hour.
There is a large textile garment screen-printer in North Carolina running a bunch of Challenger III presses most of the time with a single operator at speeds in excess of 50 dozen per hour. One thing they do to boost production is to install a flash in the last print station.
This allows the operator to unload and to "toss" the printed garment onto the dryer belt without the need to keep it 100% flat, or having the worry of wet ink offsetting. So... if you have the option of putting a flash into the last print station, you might consider giving this method a try.
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Depending on the print size, I can keep a steady (yet comfortable) pace of about 400pcs./hr. solo. I've done 500 but it's definitely not sustainable for long periods.
Having a catcher is a necessity for our shop. There's nothing worse than a giant pile in the shirt runner.
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when I run solo, it's truly just me in the shop.
so no catcher... no folder.. no ink manager... (that's what seems to slow me down the most on multicolor prints)...
guys that are printing 500+ shirts/hr solo... how are you pulling the printed shirt, and loading the next shirt, all while keeping them straight and aligned?
I do need to build a bigger catch bin tho... right now, the bin is slightly narrower than the belt, so if I throw some shirts on the belt that are shifted to one side, sometimes they hang up on the sides of the bin.
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About 350-400/hr but that is with someone catching at the end of the dryer. I've ran as fast as 480/hr but I couldn't keep that speed for an entire hour. I grab the shirt as it's indexing to me and pull it off and essentially throw it on the dryer belt and by the time I'm done with that the table is in the up position and I load fairly fast. I don't have to change my feet position that much, just slightly and you have to get good at pulling/throwing the shirt on to the belt without getting it all messed up. It's all one motion and I try to keep the shirt as it was on the pallet straight to the belt without flipping it or swapping my hand positions, I try to copy the auto unloader as closely as I physically can.
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Depending on the size of the image, if it can be flashed before pulling ect, anyone here who prints usually runs our DB at 30 doz safely, but myself or Niki can usually run it around 40 doz as a solo if the image catches a flash before pulling, or say a left chest.
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Anyone done any videos of a "one man show"?....
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350 pph depending on image sometimes more sometimes less, pockets 550-600 pph but the stacking afterwards is the PIA part.
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I haven't kept up with how many an hour yet but I can run solo with a 13 second delay and if I'm really feeling cocky maybe bump it down to an 11 second.
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i max at 36 dozen per hour...I cruise at 30 all day.
I don't print alone much anymore, but I still like to run a press, so sometimes I do.
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Here's a quick clip of me printing solo... I am definitely a slow loader...
http://youtu.be/OIIdX5qthmc (http://youtu.be/OIIdX5qthmc)
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Here's a quick clip of me printing solo... I am definitely a slow loader...
[url]http://youtu.be/OIIdX5qthmc[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/OIIdX5qthmc[/url])
That's similar to how I unload the shirt except I slide it really fast off the pallet onto the belt. I'm not this fast but this is what I try to do but with Jason's technique.
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Shelly used to be around 30dz a hour, now we have 3 people out there and Shelly and I aren't one of them, that's pretty great finally.
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Depending on the print size and double strokes...about 28 doz per hour.
If I know I am printing alone I try to have revolver jobs or flashes...allows me to load and unload and fold in between cycles.
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Back... "some" years ago... I would load/unload at 300/350 and hour for long periods of time with a catcher. The index speed is what kept the numbers down. If I also had to fold, I would average 150 an hour.
The better the index speed, the faster we could go. Just as Peter mentioned above about the Challenger 3's.
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Here's a video I uploaded a couple years ago. 150pcs. in 20 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a9eymcPNJA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a9eymcPNJA)
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;D those two vids had me cracking up I love it ;D, jvanick I'm sorry but that didn't look like a 200 pph hour to me I could be very wrong which most times I am nice vid though and King 150 in 20 with that vid speed yep and nice looking brown press.
darryl
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I wish my employees moved that fast. I need the remote from Click.
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I wish my employees moved that fast. I need the remote from Click.
Comooooooooooon bro!!!
lol ;D
GB in the heeezeeeeee
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that was probably round 180 or so shirts an hour (rough 3 shirts a minute)... at that point.
I usually use the foot indexer, because I'm picky about the lineup and straightness of the prints.
I do know on that job that I did 210 shirts in 65 minutes. so I'm sure that I sped up as I went.
I time almost everything we do so I can understand what our true 'hourly' costs are.
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I time almost everything we do so I can understand what our true 'hourly' costs are.
Smart man!
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In my shop single operator on our diamondback anywhere from 25-35 doz an hr usually and 35-55 doz an hr on our ch3. Our ch3 produces much more then our dback because of this. Just the other day we were double stroking a small chest print at 74 doz an hr with two press ops. Between the heads dropping and indexing system you can really run it faster as a single or dual operator. Wish my dback was a ch3 lol
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We do anywhere between 25-37 doz on our Diamondback-S as a single person gig.
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Just getting back into auto printing of late and I've been running my Tas solo the last couple weeks. Can have it indexing every 10 secs which seems a nice, comfy, but quick speed... drop the dwell a second and it's manageable 2 seconds and it's a bit hardcore. My dryer is running parallel and I do need to move a little so should probably arrange the dryer better.
With an unloader can be indexing at 6 or 7 secs which seems pretty quick... but I'd rather have that hand standing at the end of the dryer folding as they come out... Would you?
We've had quite a bit of work on the last couple weeks. Me running the auto and another printer on the manual it's great having a catcher at the end of the dryer.
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here at the shop, my nephew (19) young buck been printing for us for three years during summer runs the sporty at 38doz all day long, 42-43 doz. when hes pushing it. I'm around 40doz an hr. with a double stroke with table up for base at the start of production till whites worked over then kick it to one index set at 5-6sec. there is a person at the end of the belt for catching and with belt less than 28" from load and unload station winged flood bars. If the flash is running we almost don't need an unloader IR flashes...javelin on the other hand quite a bit slower but still good numbers...
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our shopp is all solo printing unless we have a small print and are single hitting. then we put 2 people on press and 1 catcher. doing that setup on a front left chest i have printed 82 doz/hr and only had to stop 3 or 4 times. it took bout 40 mins but i was done after that. to sustain that kind of speed for long is nearly impossible. myself on a small print i can sustain mid 40's doz/hr all day but that makes for a boring lonely day as u cant talk to anyone
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I'd love to see a video of someone breaking 40dz/hr. solo loading and unloading so I can see what I'm doing wrong.
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ill get u a video tomorrow if i can
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I'd love to see a video of someone breaking 40dz/hr. solo loading and unloading so I can see what I'm doing wrong.
Me too, I'd like to see the technique used because I'm sure there is a better way than how I'm doing it. I've managed to average 7 shirts per minute for 420/hr and it was very difficult to keep that pace but I did it for about 40 minutes. I remember reading someone claiming here on this forum that their printer averaged 437/hr for 2 8-hour shifts and I can see that on a C3 or another machine that indexes really fast, but not anything else. I think in spurts and the right technique can produce faster speeds than I can do and I'd like to see how it's done.
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I solo print and having maybe the smaller press than most of you I print from 21doz and hour to 28 doz which is low numbers to most of you, but good speed for me.... the way some of these numbers are tossed around some of you cats should be millionaire's LOL, yes I know you don't print numbers like that everyday, but when I read someone saying hey we print 60 doz and hour I look at 720 ph x 8 hours =5'760 pc a day I say WOW!!! they be getting it dogg. I'm sorry for being stupid at times but I look at real world stuff and think that's what you produce daily LOL, I been in this biz to long and sniff to much screen opener ;D
darryl
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I solo print and having maybe the smaller press than most of you I print from 21doz and hour to 28 doz which is low numbers to most of you, but good speed for me...
I think those are pretty good solo numbers. 40 doz/hr solo would leave me a puddle of jelly at the end of a day if I could even sustain it.
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i think i've hit that once..it's not a speed I can cruise at and I end up panicking and stopping a lot. The fastest I can cruise at is about 32-25 dz
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Here's me at 40dz/hr alone on a 400 piece job. I took breaks between sizes to stack/box shirts at the end of the dryer, then pick back up. I have maintained this for extended periods of time, but 36-38dz is a lot easier on your body haha.
http://youtu.be/9WELjwo3IdI (http://youtu.be/9WELjwo3IdI)
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That's a nice clip
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I second that, nice clip (Anatol press ;)), but here is a question I would like answered, I know every press has a counter and pph on the control head. The other day and in the pass I've time myself to see if I was in syn with the counter, and my answer is no, so are you going by that counter or real world time?
darryl
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That press is all the wrong color. ;)
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That's the exact pace and method I use pretty much so maybe I'm faster than I thought. Sometimes I can speed things up and grab the shirt while it's indexing and slide it onto the belt in one motion and get to 10 shirts/minute but the tack has to be just right and a front print location.
In regards to the counters that are on the press, I've compared several different machines to real world times and none of them have been very accurate. In their defense, none of them were newer style machines so the post 2005 machines could be very accurate for all I know. Our Centurian was WAY off and there were times where it would say we were running at 65dz/hr and we were barely doing 40dz/hr but it would also be off in the other direction just as often.
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If I'm correct and most times I'm not, but it looks like he is printing at 7 sec per shirt which he should be printing about 8 to 9 shirts per minute maybe 10... I could live with that, heck I might be a little slower.
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I have no idea if the counter is accurate. It was hard enough for me to even make a video! I just watched the video again along with an online timer going and it looks like right at 8 even per minute which is accurate for 40dz/hr.
Gilligan, don't be jealous of my pink machine!
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Good pace! that gives me incentive to improve the ergonomics we have for solo printing.
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I have no idea if the counter is accurate. It was hard enough for me to even make a video! I just watched the video again along with an online timer going and it looks like right at 8 even per minute which is accurate for 40dz/hr.
Gilligan, don't be jealous of my pink machine!
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2cogbht.jpg)