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Title: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: Mark @ Hurricane Printing on August 14, 2014, 03:16:28 PM
I am about to print onto 100% polyester for the first time...white and metallic gold ..the white is a polywhite ink so I have that area addressed....but for the metallic gold ink..will it require a polywhite underbase? Or can i just print the metallic ink right onto the polyester with no issues?

Title: Re: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: tonypep on August 14, 2014, 03:21:37 PM
Both, depending on what you like. With no UB it may be a little duller but a better hand. For superbest hand I have WB metallics that are awesome. We use them a lot for a major fitness group and they love it as it compliments discharge very well. Just got an e-mail from one of the buyers at the convention show store that opened this am and they are blowing through them. Your choice.
Title: Re: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: Mark @ Hurricane Printing on August 14, 2014, 03:45:23 PM
Both, depending on what you like. With no UB it may be a little duller but a better hand. For superbest hand I have WB metallics that are awesome. We use them a lot for a major fitness group and they love it as it compliments discharge very well. Just got an e-mail from one of the buyers at the convention show store that opened this am and they are blowing through them. Your choice.

never printed discharge yet....and i dont think im ready to either.....i dont use an underbase for metallic gold when i print them on 100% cotton so based on your post I wont use an underbase on the 100% polyester
Title: Re: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: Sbrem on August 14, 2014, 04:22:08 PM
We haven't had to underbase metallics for other materials, but I can't exactly say on the 100% poly. Get a couple extra and test, not to mention that you can trust Tony on these things as a rule. But a test is good because you want to be sure it works with your particular equipment.

Steve
Title: Re: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: jvanick on August 14, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
I've never underbased my metallics.   Even on black 100% poly, 1 hit of metallic silver has been plenty of opacity.
Title: Re: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: balloonguy on August 14, 2014, 04:34:45 PM
Both, depending on what you like. With no UB it may be a little duller but a better hand. For superbest hand I have WB metallics that are awesome. We use them a lot for a major fitness group and they love it as it compliments discharge very well. Just got an e-mail from one of the buyers at the convention show store that opened this am and they are blowing through them. Your choice.

I was under the impression that you could not discharge poly. Did I miss something?
Title: Re: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: mimosatexas on August 14, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
I was a little confused by that reply as well...

I will say if it is the super smooth poly you shouldn't need an underbase as the ink will print super nicely and sit on top of the fabric.
Title: Re: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: Sbrem on August 14, 2014, 04:59:03 PM
I believe Tony was talking about using the waterbase metallics along with discharge on cotton shirts, as it looks better and has a much softer hand than plastisol metallics... No, you can't discharge poly...

Steve
Title: Re: underbase for metallic inks going on 100% polyester?
Post by: tonypep on August 15, 2014, 06:51:16 AM
But you can print WB metallic and shimmers on poly. BTW don't get me started on metallic vs shimmers. Most people incorrectly interchange the two.